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Pope's 'Revenge' As LA Gets Opus Dei Bishop [Pope's "Revenge" on Hollywood Sodomites!]
Telegraph(UK) ^ | April 06th 2010 | Simon Caldwell

Posted on 04/06/2010 9:32:34 PM PDT by Steelfish

Pope's 'Revenge' As LA Gets Opus Dei Bishop A member of the radically-orthodox Catholic group Opus Dei has been appointed as the new Archbishop of Los Angeles.

By Simon Caldwell 06 Apr 2010

Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio takes questions from the media at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels. Jose Gomez has been parachuted into the archdiocese of five million to try to lure the increasingly lapsing faithful of southern California back to Church. The appointment was described as the Pope's revenge on Hollywood for filming The Da Vinci Code. Benedict XVI's choice comes after Colombia Pictures depicted Opus Dei as a secret society of murderous monks who, according to author Dan Brown, were trying to cover up the truth of Jesus's secret affair with Mary Magdelene.

The appointment will give Opus Dei enormous influence in the American Church and Vatican, and is the most senior appointment for a member of the group. It will also lead to Mexican-born Gomez, formerly the Archbishop of San Antonio, Texas, becoming the first Latin American US cardinal, a position that will give him influence in Rome and the right to vote at a papal conclave.

The choice is likely to dismay the Catholics of Hollywood, which falls within the archdiocese. The reigning archbishop, Cardinal Roger Mahony, avoided confrontation, but Archbishop Gomez is less likely to duck controversy. Opus Dei, which he joined in 1978, is seen as one of the most devout of all the Catholic groups. Some of its priests practise self-flagellation while praying to the Virgin Mary and also wear a cilice – a spiked garter – to help them to mortify the flesh and avoid sexual sins.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: danbrown; davincicode; opusdeigomez
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1 posted on 04/06/2010 9:32:34 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

heh


2 posted on 04/06/2010 9:35:34 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: Steelfish

Opie’s not gonna like this.


3 posted on 04/06/2010 9:36:49 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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radically orthodox

hehe

4 posted on 04/06/2010 9:37:20 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Steelfish

“The choice is likely to dismay the Catholics of Hollywood,..”

Who knew there are any Catholics in Hollywood? Are any ‘practicing?’


5 posted on 04/06/2010 9:37:22 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: sageb1

You can’t make this stuff up! Pass the popcorn, please!


6 posted on 04/06/2010 9:37:28 PM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: reagandemocrat
Opie’s not gonna like this.

Opie, meet Opus.

7 posted on 04/06/2010 9:38:50 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Mercat

Ping. I like Pope Benedict.


8 posted on 04/06/2010 9:38:51 PM PDT by Huntress (Who the hell are you to tell me what's in my best interests?)
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To: Salvation; sockmonkey; stephenjohnbanker; Steelfish

The UK’s take.


9 posted on 04/06/2010 9:40:16 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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To: Steelfish

LOL may Simon Caldwell twitch with anticipation of the “Pope’s revenge” And May God’s servant, ever so faithful in all humility, restore His Church to faithful fulfillment of His mission!


10 posted on 04/06/2010 9:41:52 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Reaganez

“radically orthodox”

Good catch!


11 posted on 04/06/2010 9:43:02 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: onyx

I think the Vatican has been working on this nomination for several long months. This one was carefully thought out. Liberal and Hollywood star-struck Mahony is out.


12 posted on 04/06/2010 9:46:09 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

I think Mahony’s birthday was Saturday. No time was wasted...lol.


13 posted on 04/06/2010 9:48:22 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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To: Steelfish

>>> The appointment was described as the Pope’s revenge on Hollywood for filming The Da Vinci Code.

Described by who ? Tom Hanks ? Sounds more to me like somebody is preemptively trying to poison the well.

On the other hand if the Pope’s appointments actually are more concerned about “revenge” then theology, failure is preordained.


14 posted on 04/06/2010 9:52:28 PM PDT by tlb
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To: Steelfish
radically-orthodox

Odd choice of terms. One can only assume that the author of the term personally disapproves of the ideology that the subject is orthodox to.

15 posted on 04/06/2010 9:57:16 PM PDT by rhinohunter (If Sarah Palin were irrelevant - she would be)
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To: Steelfish

“revenge on Hollywood...”

If true, that turkey of a movie was finally useful for something.


16 posted on 04/06/2010 10:05:33 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Steelfish
The appointment was described as the Pope's revenge on Hollywood for filming The Da Vinci Code.

An archbishop who wears a spiked metal garter - actually that'll probably go over big in some parts of Hollywood.
17 posted on 04/06/2010 10:09:01 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Steelfish

Let me make sure I’ve got this right ... when the pope was thinking about who he should select for this position, and the criteria by which the selection should be made, foremost in his mind were Opus Dei, Hollywood, Opus Dei, Dan Brown, and, um, Opus Dei. Have I got that right?

I’m glad we’ve cleared that up - for some reason I thought the pope considered matters such as spirituality and pastoral salvation. Boy was I wrong.


18 posted on 04/06/2010 10:14:37 PM PDT by MoonMullins
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To: pingman
And a ping to you!

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19 posted on 04/06/2010 10:18:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Reaganez

>>radically orthodox
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>hehe

My thoughts, exactly.


20 posted on 04/06/2010 10:19:09 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: J Edgar

Amen!


21 posted on 04/06/2010 10:19:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steelfish

I realize you’re trying to be funny with your subtitle, but I think it should be discouraged. The Pope has no interest whatsoever in “revenge”; his sole interest is in saving souls.


22 posted on 04/06/2010 10:29:21 PM PDT by MayfairFly
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To: Steelfish

Hmmm. I’ll have to ask my b-i-l,the priest about this man! He was wondering who was going to get the position, and knew that whoever it was was going to get blamed for all the abuse cases the media covered up under Mahoney, because Mahoney was liberal, and one of theirs.


23 posted on 04/06/2010 10:36:37 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Steelfish

Well, the first thing he can do is sell that building downtown. The Taj Mahoney is as far away from a sacred space as you can get.


24 posted on 04/06/2010 10:42:09 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic
"The Taj Mahoney is as far away from a sacred space as you can get."

LOL! I always heard it as the "Rog Mahal."

25 posted on 04/06/2010 10:50:32 PM PDT by redhead (ROC & ROLL: Restore Our Constitution--Restore Our Lost Liberties! --Gunslinger)
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To: MayfairFly

You Are Correct- Note: It was in quotes


26 posted on 04/06/2010 10:59:04 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: MoonMullins
Let me make sure I’ve got this right ... when the pope was thinking about who he should select for this position, and the criteria by which the selection should be made, foremost in his mind were Opus Dei, Hollywood, Opus Dei, Dan Brown, and, um, Opus Dei. Have I got that right?

I can't get over how self important some people think that they are. They have to include themselves as people that are in the forefront of Pope Benedict XVI's thinking. Of course, The Pope is seriously considering the Pastoral care of souls and Satan and his helpers (Hollywood's scum) would be a consideration, so I guess that they probably do have that right!

27 posted on 04/06/2010 10:59:08 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: tlb

more likely Mother Angelica’s revenge...Mahoney tried to remove her for criticizing her liberal theology, and had the Vatican “examine” her convent for irregularities because she dared to point out errors in one of his diocese teaching documents.

and of course, the real problem is all those abuse cases that Mahoney has been sitting on and blocking for years will now be investigated.... The press will figure out how to spin that against the Pope and gomez, not Mahoney of course...


28 posted on 04/06/2010 11:29:40 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: SuziQ
some more info.

Archbishop Gomez 'deeply grateful' for Los Angeles appointment
Cardinal Mahony grateful LA will have Hispanic archbishop
Vatican: Archbishop Gomez appointed to Archdiocese of LA

29 posted on 04/06/2010 11:41:24 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: LadyDoc

Ah I am glad Mother will be delighted.

As homebounds (esp so this last month) EWTN and Our Priests visits with the Holy Eucharist has been the best gift in the world.

This is fantastic news!


30 posted on 04/07/2010 12:19:48 AM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: MayfairFly

Yep.

Wow maybe even Hollywood will be influenced into producing movies of virtues.

Just had an article posted here at FR about an Irish Actor who refuses to do sex/love scenes due to being married and a practicing Catholic.

How exciting!

I have seen over the years Catholic Cali Freepers really dissappointed in Mahoney and his liberal ways.

They must be over joyed about going to Mass with the new Cardinal.


31 posted on 04/07/2010 12:29:45 AM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: Steelfish

“likely dismay the Catholics of Hollywood...”

HARDLY!

This Hollywood Catholic is fully stoked! Praise the Lord!


32 posted on 04/07/2010 12:32:46 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: EDINVA

Does attending Mass 4x a week count as “practicing”?


33 posted on 04/07/2010 12:33:16 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: IrishCatholic

It looks like a Costco. The tapestries are nice, though.


34 posted on 04/07/2010 12:34:48 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: LadyDoc

As a longtime member of the Executive Committee of Catholics in Media Associates (CIMA), I have repeatedly and unsuccessfully tried to get the organization to recognized Mother Angelica’s wonderful contribution to the arts. Couldn’t git r dun...


35 posted on 04/07/2010 12:36:27 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: Global2010

Mahony had some good points, but this will be a refreshing change...


36 posted on 04/07/2010 12:37:07 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: karnage

I went to its website. Can’t comment on architecture but the dumbed down nature of what’s going on there would even gag a Baptist. “God Shots” ?!?


37 posted on 04/07/2010 12:38:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: karnage

If there’s a celebrity in Hollywood who attends Mass 4x/week, we’d love to know who it might be. Mel kinda blew his orthodoz Catholicism, so who’s left ?


38 posted on 04/07/2010 12:38:45 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

I’m not a celebrity, and I don’t play one on TV, but I try to get to Mass every day. Usually works out to about 4 days outta 7...


39 posted on 04/07/2010 12:50:43 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: karnage

Good on you. Wonderful, in fact. I can’t imagine a believing/practicing Catholic or Christian of any stripe surviving well in that environment.


40 posted on 04/07/2010 12:54:12 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: karnage

Thanks for noting that.

I dont know or care to know (point fingers at) Priests/Cardinals outside of our own and our Pope ect..

It is all my energy to work on our own Catholic families walk/life and so happy that we have the Priest we have in our life, who actually confirmed us as adults (Catholic who came back home).


41 posted on 04/07/2010 12:56:37 AM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: karnage

I am just getting into GKChesterson.
Interesting way he had.

Tip of the ice berg.

Going to order some of the DVDs that EWTN have promoted.

I believe the on we want to order is Whats wrong with the World.


42 posted on 04/07/2010 1:15:31 AM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: EDINVA

There was a thread here at FR about an Irish heritage Actor who is in allot of prime time shows who is married and a practicing Catholic.

Wont do love/sex scenes. He has Catholic standards. : )

I dont like sports but I watch Crossing the Line just to gawk at what Catholic Men are like.


43 posted on 04/07/2010 1:18:54 AM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: EDINVA
Mel kinda blew his orthodoz Catholicism, so who’s left ?

I was thinking about that myself... but then isn't being a Catholic include alcoholic, prideful sinners.

I thought that if a person was truly repentant, attoned for his sins by taking the penalties for his actions, asking forgiveness to those he sinned against and finally didn't repeat the sin when given the opportunity to do it again.... this would place him at one with the Lord and he can stand as a man with Christ.

It seems that Mel was and still may be a Catholic, so why trash the guy? He tried to be a "good" Catholic.

Which is a lot more than can be said about me. I walked away without looking back and took a couple decades to be brought back to Christianity through a true friend and brother. I thought that the whole point of Christianity was belief in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, that his death was somehow an atonement for my sins and that the only way to salvation is through a faith in God and that he is the only reason I am here on this earth and to honor that gift.

I am still not a good Catholic or Christian. I suck at forgiveness, have pride, allow matters of this world to supersede matters of my Lord, am lazy and hypocritical. I am just hoping and praying that somehow the Lord finds it in his heart to forgive me... but I don't think questioning Mel's faith is very helpful.

44 posted on 04/07/2010 5:23:48 AM PDT by erman (A day without democrats is like a day without toilets backing up)
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...

Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio takes questions from the media at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels

Catholic Ping
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45 posted on 04/07/2010 5:55:32 AM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Steelfish
None of the 2,000 priests of Opus Dei, which has the status of a "personal prelature" of the Pope, has ever been embroiled in a sexual scandal.

... snip ...

Archbishop Gomez, 58, will work alongside Cardinal Mahony and take over when he retires next year. One of his first tasks will be to reform the priesthood.

46 posted on 04/07/2010 5:57:45 AM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: EDINVA

“Who knew there are any Catholics in Hollywood? Are any ‘practicing?’”

Yes, they are practicing sodomy and abortion.


47 posted on 04/07/2010 6:21:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: onyx

A much more honest take than our American papers(RAGS) are putting out.


48 posted on 04/07/2010 6:25:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: IrishCatholic

Having visited the place, I agree. On-line pictures do not do justice to its ugliness. The tabernacle in the bless sacrament chapel is depressingly so. The only saving grace is the tapestries on the wall.


49 posted on 04/07/2010 7:24:29 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: erman

I didn’t think I was trashing Mel or questioning his faith. I have no clue what he truly believes or where he stands with the Lord. I am not on that committee. Nor did I particularly feel that I was being so much judgmental as pointing out the obvious within the context of “Hollywood.” Gibson was the only openly Catholic Hollywood celebrity I could think of as the question arose of Hollywood’s displeasure with the new Bishop.

Mel was (maybe still is) a member of a very Orthodox branch of Catholicism who left his wife of nearly 30 years who mothered his 7 children for a younger woman with whom he was consorting rather publicly. That behavior strikes me as more “Hollywood” than “Catholic,” much less orthodox Catholic. That’s all I’m sayin’

More pertinent to real life is your own finding your own way back .. and my own ability to feel eligible one day to withstand His judgment.


50 posted on 04/07/2010 7:44:30 AM PDT by EDINVA
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