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To: P-Marlowe; xzins; blue-duncan
Unfortunately if God judges them, then he will also judge us.

I agree. I have always believed that this nation's founding was done in a Covenant with the Holy One of Israel. That's how my pilgrim ancestors viewed Plymouth Rock, and thats how the Founders viewed the formation of the nation. That belief frankly terrifies me, because I believe that God begins judgment in His own house.

I've lately begun to wonder if Bush, for all of his faults, was our Josiah, delaying the judgment for the length of his rule, but ultimately cutting short his legacy by defying God's commandment in the end.

Would that make Obama our Jeconiah, put into place by God to bring about our judgment?

I'm listening to the book of Jeremiah on .mp3 as I work. The parallels to Jeremiah's situation and our own is striking. Obviously, I'm not advocating Anglo-Israelism or replacement theology, but the Eternal One does not change, and neither do His judgments.

I also wonder about Egypts relationship with Judah. Pharaoh Neco was on Judah's side--up to a point--but when King Neb came down, Egypt became a reed of a staff, breaking and splintering into the one who tried to lean on it. For that sin, God handed Egypt over to the very enemies they sought to escape by abandoing Israel, and Egypt too was carried into exile.

I keep praying and hoping that God's judgment will be a surgical strike on Washington, but I know the rest of the country is long overdue for judgment as well. These days my prayers more turn to the promise given to Laodicea ("The Rule of the People"), "Those I love, I rebuke and chasten." I pray that He pours out His rebuke on us, not His wrath.

I think He's doing that now, actually. When God judges a nation, He takes away the things they are most proud of. In our case, that would mean our wealth, our freedom, and our might. If--probably when--we refuse to listen and repent, He will turn up the ante. I'm kind of expecting an EMP attack, but it could be any number of things.

Shalom.

134 posted on 04/08/2010 9:04:21 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan

This is playing out as a showdown with Iran.

This piece makes it seem that the US has real concerns that Israel will go nuclear against Iran. With their program buried deep underground and Obama denying them penetrating, bunker-busting bombs, that might well be the case.

I suspect history might be getting rushed to some major crossroads, and I suspect the Director of the Dance is the Almighty Himself.

Marlowe is right. Judgement falls on nations and sometimes on the just and unjust alike.

Time to stock up on provisions.


141 posted on 04/08/2010 9:11:43 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Buggman; P-Marlowe; xzins

“Would that make Obama our Jeconiah”

He is more like Rehoboam, listening to people he grew up with or think like him, rather than people with wisdom. Ultimately, it splits the nation and both sections become weaker and prey for the enemy.


201 posted on 04/08/2010 11:42:51 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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