Posted on 04/08/2010 8:07:40 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
It offends me because I am not ANTI science. I am anti-evolution. Contrary to what your religion has taught you, they are not one and the same. Your comment was meant as a smear not as a logical association. Besides, as I have stated already NO self respecting creationist wants it taught in public schools. I do not advocate the teaching of biblical creation in public schools. I would however advocate that you leave disparaging remarks about the majority religion in this country out of the propaganda. I would advocate for privitization of education. I would advocate for an HONEST discussion of evolution instead of the rabid dogma of it’s evangelists.
BTW, you were the only one discussing the movement to replace evolution with creationism. You set up a strawman and then attacked me with it. I think you need a course in logic.
“ID isn’t science, it’s religion.”
As is molecules to man evolution. Of course that doesn’t keep it from being preached daily to hoards of children who are a captive audience all funded with our tax dollars, while our beliefs are being smeared using those same dollars.
ID is joined at the hip to creationism, as pointed out by the judge in the Dover trial.
How did I disparage Christianity?
So you agree that ID is religion? It's a start...
Of course that doesn’t keep it from being preached daily to hoards of children who are a captive audience all funded with our tax dollars, while our beliefs are being smeared using those same dollars.
For what it's worth, I'm an advocate of vouchers. This would solve the problem from both of our perspectives, would it not?
“It is no valid objection that science as yet throws no light on the far higher problem of the essence or origin of life” (Darwin, Charles. The Origin of Species. 6th edition, 1882. p. 421).
You really don’t know much about ID, do you? ID only states that because of the design found in living things that their had to be intelligence. It doesn’t speak to that intelligence. It could have been the God of the Bible or aliens from outer space.
This article was discussing BIBLICAL CREATIONISM which is far different than ID. I do not advocate for biblical creationism to be taught in schools.
You as in the textbook.
My mistake, I misread your comment.
(rephrasing the question) How does the textbook disparage Christianity?
Yes, ID, biblical creation, and evolution are all belief systems. They happened in the past and cannot be observed. We have evidence in the present that is interpreted based on the worldview (paradigm) that we bring to the table. I believe in biblical creation and I think the evidence fits better with a biblical model.
The “facts” of evolution are nothing more than man’s interpretation of the evidence. He sees what he wants to see based on his worldview. I have seen scientists with the same evidence draw different conclusions because creation and evolution can’t be observed, tested and repeated. All we can do is examine evidence in the present of things that happened in the past.
Michael Behe (leading ID advocate) disagrees with you. Here's that quote from the Dover trial again:
"Consider, to illustrate, that Professor Behe remarkably and unmistakably claims that the plausibility of the argument for ID depends upon the extent to which one believes in the existence of God."
Big Government statism at its very worst, the Public School run by the far left and the historically blinded fundamentalist humanists.
I have not denied history, distorted evidence or tried to change historical facts nor would I want to.
That is one man’s opinion. There are IDers who do not believe in God but that admit that design requires a designer.
Only a very dishonest or ignorant person could possibly miss the repetition of word choices and opinions offered up by big government, statist, anti-Bible liberals to indoctrinate and weaken the authority of the Bible in the minds of other people's children.
By relegating it to a myth, untrue. If they don’t believe it that is one thing. They have no business telling children it is not true. Of course this question has been asked and answered upthread so I am not sure why we are discussing it again.
“weaken the authority of the Bible in the minds of other people’s children.”
IN THE MIND’S OF OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN.
Worth repeating. Therein lies the problem. If they want to teach the Bible as myth to their own children that is fine by me. The problem is that they want to teach it to EVERY public schooled child and they want me to have to teach it to mine.
Evolution is a theory (in the scientific, not common, sense of the word). ID is also a theory, albeit a lousy one. Biblical creation, on the other hand, is simply a myth...one which is part of a belief system, granted.
The “facts” of evolution are nothing more than man’s interpretation of the evidence.
What else should science use but evidence?
All we can do is examine evidence in the present of things that happened in the past.
When Hubble looks at a galaxy 8 billion light-years away, it's looking 8 billion years in the past. Are you skeptical of theories of galaxy formation and evolution as well?
You said: "No self respecting creationist would want a public school teacher to push creation."
Is Behe not a self respecting creationist?
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