Posted on 04/08/2010 9:12:02 PM PDT by RobinMasters
I pray it is done right then. He must be stopped.
This one is fascinating:
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html
There is an edit at the top that says that “last week’s” paper had the birthplace wrong, but I have the page recorded as of August 27, 2009 (and I had posted it in a FR thread then) that shows no such comment on this article. The comment at the top is a lie and didn’t exist until sometime AFTER August 2009, after it being posted here.
By the way, the article was written in 2006 and it stated 0bama was born in Indonesia (still does further down).
That’s a great find about ‘continent of his birth.’ I always found it fascinating that Obama was able to claim citizenship from at least four different continents. He is a natural born Citizen of the World, but not exactly a Constitutional NBC.
HI DOH Spokesbabe Janice Okubo had said that if you were born in Bali, your COLB should say you were born in Bali. I'm wondering if she was actually admitting that Obama was born in Indonesia and that his COLB should say so?? If nothing else, she admitted that foreign-born children can get Hawaiian COLBs through this statement.
No, she's saying that if he was born in Indonesia, his COLB would say he was born in Indonesia. Or that if he was born in Kenya, it would say he was born in Kenya.
To the contrary, his COLB says he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. And the Hawaii DOH has confirmed that he was born in Hawaii.
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You weren’t understanding my comment. Okubo may have had a brain lapse. That’s a weird coincidence out of all the countries she could have mentioned that she picked one where Obama was a citizen and his friend Tammy Duckworth said he was born ... you know, like a Freudian slip. The DOH confirmed that Obama’s COLB does NOT prove he was born in Hawaii. They have NEVER said it is genuine nor accurate, and have suggested that it was unlawful for them to release ANY information from such a document. IOW, if his certificate said he was born in Hawaii, according to their own claims, the DOH can NOT release that information. Instead, they said the claim of Hawaiian birth was verified by unspecified vital records. So what vital records are these and how accurate are these records??
How do you know he was NOT born out of wedlock? Have you ever seen the marriage or divorce certificate for his parents?
There’s a divorce decree, but no sign of a marriage certificate (although one is claimed to be in the marriage index). The real problem is that if Barak Sr. was a bigamist, then his offspring under an illegal marriage would not be recognized under British laws as citizens. What may happen then is that you look modern U.S. statutues that say a child born out of (legal) wedlock has the citizenship of its mother regardless of where it is born. IOW, the little bastard would be a citizen at birth, even if born in Kenya, however this doesn’t mean he fits the Constitutional definition of natural born citizen.
Lol, interesting. But the law at the time stated that his mother must be 19 (lived in the US for 5 years after the age of 14) to confer citizenship to her son which means that the only way he could have received US citizenship and natural born status (possibly) was by being born in the US. So the only way he could possibly be born anywhere but this country and still be a citizen is if he was born out of wedlock, which he clearly states he was not.
Scratch what I said just a moment ago. I confused the terms myself. From what I’m reading here (http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Military-discharge) you’re right about the President being able to dismiss any officer without a court-martial but it also says that the officer can demand a court-martial to clear his name. If they are still not granted a court-martial then the military must give him an ‘administrative discharge’ instead of a ‘dismissal’.
So... it looks like if LTC Lakin is not given a court-martial to clear his name then he will be given an ‘administrative discharge’. If he is given an ‘administrative discharge’ then there are no real consequences from rejecting orders and then all military officers could reject orders from Obama without fear of being imprisoned or receiving a dismissal. It looks like it’s well worth the donation for LTC Lakin’s case.
http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Military-discharge
“The President of the United States can order that a commissioned officer be dismissed from the service, as all commissioned officers “serve at the pleasure of the President.” However an officer who is dismissed by order of the President can demand a trial by court-martial to clear his or her name. If a court-martial is not convened, or if the officer is acquitted, then the Service Secretary of the branch that the officer is assigned to must then issue an administrative discharge in lieu of a dismissal.”
Crap, ignore my post a moment ago... wrong thread.
I was merely pointing out how the current crop of congress-critters attempted some legislative shenanigans and you demand I prove a negitive? LOL! I don't THINK so.
His parents marital status is immaterial. In older constitutional writings and records illustrate how citizenship is hereditary.
Nowhere does it say citizenship comes from your mother's husband or your father's wife, but from your acknowledged parents.
Published works have recognized O Sr., as have Zero's writing and family memorabilia. His father was a foreign national temporarily visiting the country and that FACT prevents Zero from being a natural-born citizen even if he was born in Hawaii.
If the marriage was legal, this would apply. Neither British law nor U.S. law recognizes bigamous marriages as legal, and thus the children of such marriages are as if born out of wedlock.
So the only way he could possibly be born anywhere but this country and still be a citizen is if he was born out of wedlock, which he clearly states he was not.
Who clearly states this?? Obama wrote in one of his books that he had doubts about his parents' marriage.
You’re saying Obama wasn’t sure if his parents were actually married? Do you have a quote from him about this?
You said, “The only problem is that Zero was NOT born ‘out of wedlock’.”
You’re saying definitevly that he was “NOT born ‘out of wedlock’” so I just asked if you had proof of his parent’s marriage by asking if you have ever seen their marriage or divorce certificate. What’s wrong with that?
This is something I found and have seen quoted elsewhere:
“In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I’ve never quite had the courage to explore. There’s no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving away of the bride. No families were in attendance; it’s not even clear that people back in Kansas were fully informed. Just a small civil ceremony, a justice of the peace. The whole thing seems so fragile ...”
Yes. The divorce paperwork can be viewed here. It states that his parents were married on February 2, 1961 in Wailuku, Maui, Hawaii.
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