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CNN and Roland Martin asks: Were Confederate soldiers terrorists?
CNN ^ | 4/11/2010 | Roland Martin

Posted on 04/11/2010 11:28:46 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

Based on the hundreds of e-mails, Facebook comments and Tweets I've read in response to my denunciation of Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell's decision to honor Confederates for their involvement in the Civil War -- which was based on the desire to continue slavery -- the one consistent thing that supporters of the proclamation offer up as a defense is that these individuals were fighting for what they believed in and defending their homeland.

In criticizing me for saying that celebrating the Confederates was akin to honoring Nazi soldiers for killing of Jews during the Holocaust, Rob Wagner said, "I am simply defending the honor and dignity of men who were given no choice other than to fight, some as young as thirteen."

Sherry Callahan said that supporting the Confederacy is "our history. Not hate; it's about heritage and history."

Javier Ramirez called slavery evil, but prefaced his remarks by saying that "Confederate soldiers were never seen as terrorists by [President Abraham] Lincoln or U.S. generals on the battlefield. They were accorded POW status, they were never tried for war crimes. Not once did Confederate soldiers do any damage to civilians or their property in their invasion of the north. The same is not true of Union soldiers."

Realskirkland sent me a Tweet saying, "Slavery is appalling, but was not the only reason for the CW [Civil War]. Those men, while misguided on some fronts stood up for what they felt was right. They embodied that American ideal that the states have a right to govern themselves. THAT is what a confederate soldier stood for."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cnn; dixie; history; mcdonnell; race; usa; virginiahistory
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1 posted on 04/11/2010 11:28:46 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

dupe


2 posted on 04/11/2010 11:31:17 AM PDT by culpeper (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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To: Altura Ct.

If they are so against slavery at CNN why then are they doing nothing to stop Obama from bringing it back?


3 posted on 04/11/2010 11:32:14 AM PDT by TheVitaminPress (as goes the Second Amendment . . . so goes the Constitution.)
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To: Altura Ct.

No, but the North were a bunch of war criminals, with “General” Sherman being exhibit #1.


4 posted on 04/11/2010 11:34:13 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: TheVitaminPress
If they are so against slavery at CNN why then are they doing nothing to stop Obama from bringing it back?

Because, this time, the "right people" will be enslaved.

5 posted on 04/11/2010 11:35:18 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Altura Ct.

the Civil War — which was based on the desire to continue slavery — the one consistent thing that supporters of the proclamation offer up as a defense is that these individuals were fighting for what they believed in and defending their homeland.
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Ah most of the cannon fodder didnt own any slaves...


6 posted on 04/11/2010 11:38:40 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Altura Ct.

What a maroon....

Though it should hardly come as a surprise that anyone at CNN failed to grasp the true reason for the War Between the States: States’ rights.

While it is true that the principal issue on which States’ rights turned was slavery (which, incidentally, would not have been an issue had not Africans sold their own people to others), the bottom line in the War Between the States was who makes the decisions about what each individual State does: the States themselves, or the Federal Government?

Sound familiar? This is the same issue that is being fought in almost every State in the country today. The painting of Confederate soldiers as domestic terrorists is no accident.


7 posted on 04/11/2010 11:38:54 AM PDT by lawyerchik1 ("Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Oceander

Jeez...the comments on the article are interesting!


8 posted on 04/11/2010 11:39:13 AM PDT by vharlow
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To: Oceander

Jeez...the comments on the article are interesting!


9 posted on 04/11/2010 11:39:14 AM PDT by vharlow
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To: Altura Ct.

If the Confederate soldiers were all “terrorists,” all the more so Abraham Lincoln, and all of the Union officers and soldiers.

And none more so than General Sherman and the soldiers who participated in his march.

If you accept that view, then American slavery was abolished by terrorists.


10 posted on 04/11/2010 11:39:29 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Oceander

I don’t look at the soldiers of either side as war criminals. I believe we have to look at the politicians of the times. Just as we have to today. Today, there is much more to loose if we don’t prosecute these criminals and get rid of them and take the country back.

During the Cival War, we didn’t have all the media like we have today. The average soldier looked at the war differently. He thought someone was going to try and take their freedoms away from them.......on both sides and they were willing to fight for those freedoms. Compare that to today and you have people that are too scared to stand up for those freedoms. That shows you how far we have come in regards to government control.


11 posted on 04/11/2010 11:41:04 AM PDT by RC2
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To: TheVitaminPress
"Slavery is appalling, but was not the only reason for the CW [Civil War]. Those men, while misguided on some fronts stood up for what they felt was right. They embodied that American ideal that the states have a right to govern themselves. THAT is what a confederate soldier stood for."

That really is what it is all about. As I understand it, the Civil War didn't even start over slavery, that was actually a side issue.

As for CNN, how come the diversity crowd isn't complaining about the obama administration's oppressive policies? How we're all being forced into actions and commonality? How certain segments of the population are being intentionally singled out and harmed for the benefit of others? Oh, that's right, it is because it is their boy in office doing it to "the rich."

12 posted on 04/11/2010 11:41:56 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Confederate were not terrorists.
General Sherman was a terrorist.
General Lee was a gentleman.
My family lost every male member of the family over the age of 12 and we never owned a single slave. The war was fought for state’s rights. Lincoln didn’t issue the Emancipation Proclamation to free the slaves until 1863 and then it only applied in the rebellious states. The were several slave states not in the rebellion and their slaves were not freed until the passing of the 13th Amendment.


13 posted on 04/11/2010 11:42:36 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Ask not what's happening to your money,)
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To: Altura Ct.

Confederate and Union soldiers alike answered their country’s call to arms. They were brave and honorable as the men and women who serve in our armed forces today.


14 posted on 04/11/2010 11:43:01 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: RC2

I don’t disagree with you; but if the fcuking liberals want to play silly name-calling games, then they’re going to have to accept the fact that, by contemporary standards, the North committed heinous war crimes against innocent civilians, and W’m T. Sherman is Exhibit #1.


15 posted on 04/11/2010 11:43:34 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Altura Ct.

Roland Martin

16 posted on 04/11/2010 11:44:51 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Altura Ct.

I think the record will show General Sherman and his army definitely, on his orders, acted as terrorists in his march through the South.


17 posted on 04/11/2010 11:46:23 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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Terrorists? Really? LOL Well, the better description of the Feds was/IS tyrants. Confederates could rightfully be called “Freedom Fighters,” though it would be somewhat flawed since the policy of the South was to support the institution of slavery... But one CANNOT claim the UNION was the virtuous party in this conflict. Indeed, the Confederacy’s cause as a whole was far more noble than that of the imperial designs of the Union, and the condition of our nation today is a result of the war perpetrated agaisnt the states of the South and against the Constitution as envisioned by the Founders.


18 posted on 04/11/2010 11:50:05 AM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Altura Ct.

Irrespective of what the war was or wasn’t about. This isn’t about ‘terrorist’ or slavery this is about race. I’ll bet you Mr Martin nor CNN give a damn about white slaves, indentured servants, the fact that blacks, Indians and others owned slaves or that slavery existed for thousand of years and exist today. This is specifically about White Western culture and the destruction thereof. You can bet you rear end if this is allowed to become accepted doctrine that the founders and 95% of American history are next. In fact all of Western history must be destroyed in order to achiever what they are after. Of course people like Mr Martin have myopic vision. Wanna talk about terrorist? How about we be more up to date and talk about current day black Thugs?? I am sure he doesn’t want to go there.


19 posted on 04/11/2010 11:50:55 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.
"Not once did Confederate soldiers do any damage to civilians or their property in their invasion of the north."

That, I'm afraid, is not at all true but compared with what the Union Army did to private property in the Confederate States what they did (or had the chance to do) pales. I'm a descendant of a Union soldier, by the way, so let me quote one of his superiors ... "War is Hell" (especially for the civilian population unlucky enough to be in its path).

What we now call terrorists are those who specifically target civilians in order to inspire, well, terror. Considering how low the cumulative IQ is at CNN it's too much to expect them to understand the distinction.

20 posted on 04/11/2010 11:51:55 AM PDT by katana (Interesting Times)
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