The main difference between a true civil war and the wars of 1776, 1861, and the present movement is that there is/was no intention of taking over the central government by force. They are/were all independence movements.
If we can’t take over the central government by ballot, and cut it down to size that way, we’re perfectly content with letting them crap in their own sandbox whilst we form a new free republic outside of their control.
Agreed, although I hold out no hope for the ballot box. I believe secession will be the only way to regain our freedom.
We have to cut the ties with the fools who vote for marxists or there is nothing we can do to fix this.
And to emphasize my point....
Just moved on to reading other threads after my last post in this thread and immediately came upon this.