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FBI Destroyed File on Obama's Grandfather, Journalist Discloses
Christian Newswire ^ | April 12, 2010 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 04/12/2010 10:58:38 AM PDT by Sopater

MEDIA ADVISORY, April 12 /Christian Newswire/ -- The FBI destroyed a file on Barack Obama's grandfather, the man who selected Communist Frank Marshall Davis to be the future president's mentor during his growing-up years in Hawaii.

"The FBI confirms that a file was maintained on Obama's grandfather, Stanley Armour Dunham," states Cliff Kincaid, the journalist who runs the public policy group, America's Survival, Inc. (ASI). "This is a troubling development in the effort to understand the Marxism that drives Obama's policies as president today."

In correspondence with Kincaid, available at www.usasurvival.org, the FBI says the file was destroyed in 1997. The FBI made the admission after Kincaid complied with a request to verify the identity of Dunham and the fact that he was deceased.

Dubbed "Gramps" by Obama, Dunham has been depicted in news reports as a patriot who served in the U.S. Army in World War II. But he had a close relationship with Communist Party USA (CPUSA) member Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii, who reportedly drank and smoke pot with Dunham.

Davis was not only a communist but a pornographer who wrote a semi-biographical novel about having sex with a 13-year-old girl. He mentored Obama for as many as nine years of his young life in Hawaii.

Dunham, who was white, had picked Davis as a mentor for Obama because he thought the youngster, whose father had abandoned the family, needed a black role model. Davis, who was black, fit the bill. "It was a terrible decision," Kincaid commented. "He turned over the young Obama to a communist sex pervert for moral guidance."

While the exact nature of the Dunham file will be a topic for speculation, Kincaid said that is likely that some of the information was related to Dunham's relationship with Davis. Kincaid's ASI had previously obtained the 600-page FBI file on Davis and posted it at www.usasurvival.org It shows that Davis was a key high-level operative in a Soviet-sponsored network in Hawaii.

Obama had referred to Davis in his memoir as merely "Frank," a poet filled with knowledge and advice. The real identity as that of Frank Marshall Davis was disclosed by a writer for a CPUSA publication, who said it would prove to be historically significant, and then publicized by anti-communist New Zealand blogger Trevor Loudon. Kincaid confirmed the identity of "Frank" with a source in Hawaii and then obtained and posted the Davis FBI file.

However, most media, anxious to see Obama elected president, preferred to identify Davis as a "civil rights activist" and ignore his communist affiliations.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: april; bho44; certifigate; commie; commiemole; coverup; destroyed; fbi; frankmarshalldavis; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; obamasecrets; stanleydunham
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1 posted on 04/12/2010 10:58:38 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ..

The list, ping


2 posted on 04/12/2010 11:03:41 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks

SOURCE

3 posted on 04/12/2010 11:03:51 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: Sopater

So, now what? THe file has been destroyed. Anybody know why, or who gave the order?


4 posted on 04/12/2010 11:06:01 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Sopater
I would like to take a look at the Obama file that the FBI obviously has, or do you think that was destroyed too?

If former FBI head Herbert Hoover was alive today and still head of the FBI, I bet he would have seen Obama’s Hawaii long form birth certificate long ago, no doubt about it.

5 posted on 04/12/2010 11:06:57 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Sopater
Dunham, who was white, had picked Davis as a mentor for Obama because he

was BHO's father

6 posted on 04/12/2010 11:07:18 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’ll tell you why.......the family is a complete train wreck!!!


7 posted on 04/12/2010 11:09:11 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Sopater

So they say the destroyed records that may have had information but there’s no way to tell for sure, and that you can appeal. Appeal what? That they didn’t look hard enough? Like trying to prove a negative.

Seens odd to say the least.


8 posted on 04/12/2010 11:09:19 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Sopater

In correspondence with Kincaid, available at www.usasurvival.org, the FBI says the file was destroyed in 1997.

____________________________________________

Wow. Obama has more power and control than I thought. Not only can he scrub dangerous files. He can go back in time and make them disapperar 10 years before he runs for the office of Supreme Leader.


9 posted on 04/12/2010 11:09:48 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

A very distinct possibility.


10 posted on 04/12/2010 11:10:10 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Sopater

and so, young William Jefferson Blythe Clinton...here is your Fulbright Scholarship....keep in mind now that some day we may come and ask a favor from you in return....


11 posted on 04/12/2010 11:10:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sopater

I bet Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Andrew Breitbart, MSFoxNews, and other Obama Enablers will whine about Kincaid’s work....like they do about Birthers.

Obviously Obama’s family has some commie sympathies....


12 posted on 04/12/2010 11:11:21 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

May 1, 1997 - May 1st gave me a chuckle.

However, now that Barry’s is in office, time to clean up??...

Member of the Illinois Senate
from the 13th district
In office
January 8, 1997 – November 4, 2004


13 posted on 04/12/2010 11:11:24 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: panthermom
I’ll tell you why.......the family is a complete train wreck!!!

I’ll tell you why.......the family is a complete Marxist train wreck!!!

14 posted on 04/12/2010 11:11:32 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (we now live in a post-Obamapacolyptic world)
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To: Sopater

...ON WHOSE ORDERS?


15 posted on 04/12/2010 11:14:19 AM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: NeoCaveman

Got me there!


16 posted on 04/12/2010 11:16:03 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Sopater

obama prince


17 posted on 04/12/2010 11:16:50 AM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: thouworm

They said that he can file an “Appeal”. Appeal what? Does this mean there is a copy?


18 posted on 04/12/2010 11:18:54 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Responsibility2nd

Who says 1997 IS the year it was destroyed? It may said it on the Records Management file - but, IMO, that means nothing.

Destroying a file is for destroying info.


19 posted on 04/12/2010 11:19:32 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

.
Was this one of the FBI files that were illegally held by the Clinton Whitehouse?


20 posted on 04/12/2010 11:20:04 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: pissant; All
Not to worry...

Hillary has that file somewhere in her stack!

21 posted on 04/12/2010 11:20:19 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: presently no screen name

Interesting that 0dumbo was a state senator in 97. I had forgotten that.

I wonder if there is a way to talk to any of the agents who created the file. How many FBI agents could there have been in the 60’s and 70’s in hawaii
How many files could the FBI have kept on people living in Hawaii
a man whose daughter was allegedly married to a black man from kenya and whose good friend was a known commie


22 posted on 04/12/2010 11:20:21 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Touch Not the Cat

Could be - I’m sure Hillary had an interest on anyone coming from dirty Chicago - her hometown.


23 posted on 04/12/2010 11:22:06 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: backhoe

*ping* for your links collection


24 posted on 04/12/2010 11:22:11 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Sopater
obama or malcomX?

Last... 'dad' (?)


25 posted on 04/12/2010 11:22:24 AM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

GMTA! Ya got me by 16 seconds!


26 posted on 04/12/2010 11:22:29 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: panthermom

.......the family is a complete train wreck!!!


....as in completely disfunctional!


27 posted on 04/12/2010 11:23:19 AM PDT by unkus
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To: RWGinger

Good point. Some detective work needed.


28 posted on 04/12/2010 11:27:44 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: panthermom
I’ll tell you why.......the family is a complete train wreck!!!

Garbage in, garbage out...

29 posted on 04/12/2010 11:28:09 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Sopater

Just like Hitler had his family’s records destroyed...hmmmm


30 posted on 04/12/2010 11:31:34 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Sopater; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...

ping


31 posted on 04/12/2010 11:32:12 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 445 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Sopater

save


32 posted on 04/12/2010 11:37:04 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: Sopater

Isn’t that convenient...


33 posted on 04/12/2010 11:38:49 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: RC2

He has not given any interpretation or follow-up information on his website.

http://www.usasurvival.org/#


34 posted on 04/12/2010 11:38:50 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: presently no screen name
May 1, 1997

So, it looks like that is the official day when Obama was anointed. Therefore, they had to scrub clean the files.

Check out the time frame:

From Wikipedia:

Obama was sworn in as a senator on January 4, 2005, at which time he became the only Senate member of the Congressional Black Caucus. CQ Weekly characterized him as a "loyal Democrat" based on analysis of all Senate votes in 2005–2007. The National Journal ranked him among the "most liberal" senators during 2005 through 2007. He enjoyed high popularity as senator with a 72% approval in Illinois. Obama announced on November 13, 2008 that he would resign his Senate seat on November 16, 2008, before the start of the lame-duck session, to focus on his transition period for the presidency.

35 posted on 04/12/2010 11:43:00 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: john mirse
"Obama's grandfather was also a player" from blogger riccy44 This is at American Thinker’s April 7 article titled President Obama Needs to Prove His Constitutional Eligibility to Be Commander-in-Chief on page 6 of the comments section.
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Posted by: riccy44 Apr 09, 12:32 AM -------------
Hello LTC sir, I hope you read this,
I support you for your stand on Obamas birth.
I will tell you and the posters here what I know.
I knew Obamas grandfather and his mother and father in Hawaii.
The story is much longer then will post here, I know about births in Hawaii during this time.
At this time the only way births were posted in the news was by family posting it.
The mother father, nurse ,doctor and 2 other witnesses signed the birth papers within the first 30 minutes of the birth.
I met Obamas mother and father in 1961 right after they came back from Africa with their baby
who was born in Africa.
I remember they had some complaint about not being allowed on an airplane back to USA from Africa account
her pregnant condition. ------------- I heard this both from Obamas grandfather and his mother and father.
I also remember they had some trouble with the baby having no papers , passport to come back to the USA from
Africa.
Obamas mother father and grandfather had much anger against the USA government and were very socialist,
markzist in their beliefs.
I also know in Hawaii during this time in 1961 almost all government things could be changed, just by who you knew
and who they knew. Every thing worked on the comshaw , TRADE, or money.
Maybe the birth papers were also fixed in this way. *******************Obamas grandfather was a player also was known to be gay.
http://comments.americanthinker.com/read/42323/574256/page-6.html . . Note: It seems the original comment was removed but you can find the cached page HERE: . . http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8Kz9_ItdspkJ:comments.americanthinker.com/read/42323/574256/page-6.html+riccy44&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=safari ****************************** . . Why would AT remove this most interesting comment --- I mean, this most AMAZING comment. . . Who is riccy44 ???????? Does he really know the truth as he is saying that he does? He would be at least 68 years old now if he met Obama and his mama in 1961 to 1963. And, amazingly , if he also met the father with Stanley as there is only one other person on the planet claiming this !!! . ----------------- I find all of the above to be VERY interesting ...
36 posted on 04/12/2010 11:46:02 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: john mirse
I would like to take a look at the Obama file that the FBI obviously has, or do you think that was destroyed too?

If former FBI head Herbert Hoover was alive today and still head of the FBI, I bet he would have seen Obama’s Hawaii long form birth certificate long ago, no doubt about it.

******

This is mirse. Sorry, but I got my "Hoover" persons mixed up above.

Herbert Hoover was a President of the United States.

J. Edgar Hoover was the FBI director I was thinking about when I wrote the message above. Sorry for the mixup.

37 posted on 04/12/2010 11:46:13 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: STARWISE; SE Mom; maggief; little jeremiah; Hoodat; hoosiermama

PING!!


38 posted on 04/12/2010 11:54:24 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Sopater

I fear the f.b.i. has become a joke in far too many ways.
Clinton used them and the i.r.s. as his personnal mafia.


39 posted on 04/12/2010 11:54:29 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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To: Sopater
It's been speculated that this poem is really about Frank Marshall Davis:

"Pop"

"Sitting in his seat, a seat broad and broken
In, sprinkled with ashes,
Pop switches channels, takes another
Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks
What to do with me, a green young man
Who fails to consider the
Flim and flam of the world, since
Things have been easy for me;
I stare hard at his face, a stare
That deflects off his brow;
I’m sure he’s unaware of his
Dark, watery eyes, that
Glance in different directions,
And his slow, unwelcome twitches,
Fail to pass.
I listen, nod,
Listen, open, till I cling to his pale,
Beige T-shirt, yelling,
Yelling in his ears, that hang
With heavy lobes, but he’s still telling
His joke, so I ask why
He’s so unhappy, to which he replies...
But I don’t care anymore, cause
He took too damn long, and from
Under my seat, I pull out the
Mirror I’ve been saving; I’m laughing,
Laughing loud, the blood rushing from his face
To mine, as he grows small,
A spot in my brain, something
That may be squeezed out, like a
Watermelon seed between
Two fingers.
Pop takes another shot, neat,
Points out the same amber
Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and
Makes me smell his smell, coming
From me;
he switches channels, recites an old poem
He wrote before his mother died,
Stands, shouts, and asks
For a hug, as I shink, my
Arms barely reaching around
His thick, oily neck, and his broad back; ‘cause
I see my face, framed within
Pop’s black-framed glasses
And know he’s laughing too."

Pop

40 posted on 04/12/2010 11:54:29 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge

That creeps me out everytime.


41 posted on 04/12/2010 11:56:01 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: RWGinger

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2489872/posts?page=81


42 posted on 04/12/2010 11:56:39 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Me too.

There are dark things going on inside his head.

43 posted on 04/12/2010 11:57:36 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge

He could just be a sensitive soul, after all Stalin and Pol Pot wrote poetry too.


44 posted on 04/12/2010 11:59:21 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: john mirse

I knew what you meant :-)

Questions before coming to a conclusion:

Does the FBI routine destroy files as a matter of housecleaning? Do/did they have a file on Stanley Anne? Is that one extant? Five years is not a long time to keep records before destruction.

Need to do some snooping, I guess.


45 posted on 04/12/2010 12:02:12 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Lst thought....maybe this is a parsing excercise. Perhaps the paper file was destroyed, but microfilmed files exsist.

I can go to footnote and get these FBI files:
Bureau Section Files, 1909-21
Mexican Files, 1909-21
Miscellaneous Files, 1909-21
Old German Files, 1909-21


46 posted on 04/12/2010 12:05:32 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Are you saying Dunham was his father, or Davis? I think Dunham was his father, and he picked a black mentor father-figure because Obama’s mother was black and Davis would have looked more like Obama’s father than Dunham did.


47 posted on 04/12/2010 12:10:48 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: RWGinger
Interesting that 0dumbo was a state senator in 97. I had forgotten that.

Didn't Obama give a nominating speach at the DNC in '96? If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would be thinking that Obama may have asked for a favor around that time, and that favor got granted.

It's also possible that 'Gramps' as an Army officer had a file that was destroyed for mundane reasons -- like 50 years had gone by?

48 posted on 04/12/2010 12:12:09 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Mr. K

Wow...very, very interesting.


49 posted on 04/12/2010 12:14:08 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: thouworm; onyx; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

Unconscionable. Who gave the order to destroy ... and WHY?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

While the exact nature of the Dunham file will be a topic for speculation, Kincaid said that is likely that some of the information was related to Dunham's relationship with Davis.

Kincaid's ASI had previously obtained the 600-page FBI file on Davis and posted it at USA Survival.com..

It shows that Davis was a key high-level operative in a Soviet-sponsored network in Hawaii.

Obama had referred to Davis in his memoir as merely "Frank," a poet filled with knowledge and advice. The real identity as that of Frank Marshall Davis was disclosed by a writer for a CPUSA publication, who said it would prove to be historically significant, and then publicized by anti-communist New Zealand blogger Trevor Loudon.

Kincaid confirmed the identity of "Frank" with a source in Hawaii and then obtained and posted the Davis FBI file.

However, most media, anxious to see Obama elected president, preferred to identify Davis as a "civil rights activist" and ignore his communist affiliations.

~~~~~~~

Who Was Frank Marshall Davis? FBI Report

50 posted on 04/12/2010 12:15:01 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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