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1 posted on 04/14/2010 2:29:08 PM PDT by jerry557
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Has any good been wrought from desegregation?


2 posted on 04/14/2010 2:31:26 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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annually permitting more than 300 students, most of them white, to transfer to a school outside of their residential area

"Freedom of association is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The relevant portion states, “Congress shall make no law . . . abridging . . . the right of the people peaceably to assemble.”" (link)

4 posted on 04/14/2010 2:37:01 PM PDT by Greysard
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In other words, whitey must sacrifice their children to the gods of PoliticalCorrectness...


6 posted on 04/14/2010 2:39:35 PM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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who exactly is hurt if blacks choose to stay in a majority black school and whites choose to move to a majority white school?

Why is this only an issue with schools? I have never heard a single person ever complain that most blacks voluntarily choose to go to black churches... does it not occur to these judges that maybe just maybe people prefer to be around their own kind when given a choice. I have absolutely nothing against blacks, but I would be lying if I said I would feel comfortable attending a school where I was one of the few white kids. Maybe that makes me racist, heck I don't even care anymore.

7 posted on 04/14/2010 2:43:41 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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Mississippi ping


8 posted on 04/14/2010 2:45:39 PM PDT by WKB (From "Handout" to "Bailout")
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Oh, Lord. Mississippi schools are already segregated - they’re called ACADEMIES.

Plus, Jackson has been trying to annex local surrounding areas for a long time in order to “spread the wealth” (or the dearth) of South Jackson students.

Tell them to “desegregate” South Jackson, Pt. Gibson, or Canton schools and stop treating the white teachers who are giving their all to help black kids succeed like trash.


12 posted on 04/14/2010 2:58:23 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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In fact, the county school board in 2009 rejected a tentative settlement with the government that would have overhauled the district's transfer policy and prevented students being assigned to classrooms based on race.

On Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Tom Lee, in Jackson, Mississippi, ordered the school district to significantly limit transfers. Lee also ordered the district to stop assigning students to classrooms that resulted in segregation, demanding that it use a software program to randomly assign them.

Note that not assigning students to classrooms based on race and not assigning students to classrooms in a way that results in segregation are not the same thing.

I completely agree that students should not be assigned to classrooms based on race. I do not agree on randomly assigning students to classrooms.

When I attended elementary school there were grouped according to their abilities. Students that were struggling were grouped together, and students that were excelling were grouped together. If you were near the top of the group you were in they moved you up. If you were struggling in the group you were in they moved you down to where you would be taught at a pace that was of more benefit to you.

In higher grades the classes you chose to take tended to have much of the same effect.

School policies need to be colorblind.

There is definitely a problem of underachievement by some minority groups in schools. Some of it has do do with poor family support. Some of it has to do with a lack of hope which leaves students with the perception that there is little incentive to work hard.

I've known too many people of different races that have excelled to believe the poor performance in intrinsic to people of a particular race. I however don't know how to solve the problem.

I do know that the solution is not to randomly form classes so that teachers are forced to bore a large portion of the class to death while leaving another large portion in the dust because the level of learning amongh the students differs too much.

13 posted on 04/14/2010 3:00:55 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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It is because of policies like this that Mississippi has the highest education level, the highest income and the highest life expectancy of all 50 states.
17 posted on 04/14/2010 3:32:19 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: jerry557

In a way they are saying a black kid can’t learn unless a white kid is sitting next to them.


23 posted on 04/14/2010 4:11:36 PM PDT by timeflies
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Many well-informed blacks, particularly in the south, who want to improve their kids college possibilities, send their kids to private all black intermediate and high schools, where the parents know they will not be coddled and will be expected to perform. Overwhelming majorities of students from those private “segregated” schools go on to college.

And why not; most “public schools” epitomize “lowered” expectations so everyone feels they “passed”.

The biggest form of racism is the Liberal belief that “desegregation in education” automatically equals “quality of education”. It’s racist because it tells a black child their education is “better” just because they sit next to w white child. It was always a lie.

Does that mean that segregation is intrinsically good, intrinsically a moral good? No.

But it does mean that “desegregation”, as a policy sledge-hammer, a blind social engineering policy in all venues at all times, remains a policy divorced from its own negative unforeseen consequences.

1994: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n23_v86/ai_15869565/

1998: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-493628841.html

2004: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/19/education/19education.html?pagewanted=1

and after high school

http://www.blackcollegesearch.com/schools.htm

But, what’s to complain about, concerning tho url-links above, since we really believe in Life, LIBERTY and the Pursuit of Happiness above all else?

and for further reading

“The Education of Minority Children” by Thomas Sowell

at: http://www.tsowell.com/speducat.html


26 posted on 04/14/2010 5:19:29 PM PDT by Wuli
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they’s miscegenatin’!!


28 posted on 04/14/2010 7:50:45 PM PDT by mo
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Better to homeschool. The public schools are in bad shape now, and even some private schools. Kids gone wild.


29 posted on 04/14/2010 11:58:07 PM PDT by Cedar
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Sheff vs O'Neill
33 posted on 04/15/2010 1:05:53 AM PDT by Daffynition ( In the span of one man's lifetime, only the individual has any potential - not the collective.)
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