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New Tribe Rising?
Townhall.com ^ | April 20, 2010 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 04/20/2010 6:36:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Tribes are an African cultural thing.

Not American.


21 posted on 04/20/2010 7:05:16 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Kaslin

Some of the comments in this thread read like they were posted by the MSM.

Read the article, people. He’s not talking about race; he’s talking about a reassertion of the traditional American “tribe.” I think he’s right about that. Middle America is tired of the elites promoting every cultural tradition except traditional America’s.


22 posted on 04/20/2010 7:06:03 AM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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To: pnh102
Why are the Tea Partiers not intimidated the way Republicans often are? Why is the charge of racism not working?

Because we are not racists. We believe in the Constitution as written. We believe in "original intent" of the Constitution.

All that believe in that document as written are welcome at a Tea Party.

23 posted on 04/20/2010 7:08:31 AM PDT by cpdiii (Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

rednecks welcome the addition of more rednecks, of any color


24 posted on 04/20/2010 7:10:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Kaslin
On first glance, what Pat says may make sense. I believe, however, that the US will ultimately be like Brazil racially: Whites (and Asians) at the top, whites and browns in the middle, blacks and browns at the bottom. There will not likely be a "race war" (if we would have had one, it would have occurred from the mid-60s through the early 70s), and "whites" will have a large plurality for some time. Besides, 1. Majorities don't really matter in terms of "power", see the Alawites in Syria and the Persians in Iran (the latter have a large plurality). In Latin America, those of European, Jewish, and Middle Eastern ancestry tend to have economic, if not political power despite being minorities. 2. "Latinos" are themselves a western, racially mixed people, and who's to tell how much intermarriage will take place, particularly as immigration drops off late in the century.

The racial paranoia that I hear from Buchanan is a bit alarmist. While we will never be sitting around a campfire singing kum ba ya, nor are the cultural contexts there for the equivalent of the Balkans, nor is the racial/ethnic ratio skewed to the extent that it was in South Africa, Algeria, or Rhodesia.

25 posted on 04/20/2010 7:12:19 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: stop_fascism

Pat is brilliant. And right. You are living in the type of world Bill-O believes in. And that’s why he was booed when he tried to pretend there was racial unity after 911 recently.


26 posted on 04/20/2010 7:14:24 AM PDT by sydney smith
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To: cpdiii
All that believe in that document as written are welcome at a Tea Party.

So those of us who think that the supremacy clause needs clarification and that the means of treaty ratification should be equivalent to ratifying an amendment are to be banned?

I'm heartbroken.

27 posted on 04/20/2010 7:17:29 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Kaslin

Pat Buchanan! Have I got a present for you! You’re going to love it! Now take your time, you’ll want to savor this gift:

In memory of the aryan kings of iran - Pahlavi dynasty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quobgxv1l00&feature=related

Iran-Land of the Aryans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8o4AelGsug&feature=related

IRAN Persian Pride - Islam is my enemy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBxR1f8ULRA&feature=related

Aryan Race in Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan,India
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0TQ1gj8GQo&feature=related

(I’m Jewish, both groups want to kill us, it’s rare we get a chance to pop some popcorn and watch for awhile.)
Damn! I guess Calypso Louie is going to have to dig Khalid Muhammed up and tell him the bad news - Nation of Islam is going to be at the bottom of that totem pole too. Damn, hate it for them! I guess that’s what happens when race is the way a person judges others. Hmmmm should I put salt on my popcorn before it gets outlawed?


28 posted on 04/20/2010 7:17:44 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Kaslin

I will not be maneuvered into a “white” pigeonhole. Just a human being, thank you.


29 posted on 04/20/2010 7:19:19 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: B Knotts
Read the article, people. He’s not talking about race; he’s talking about a reassertion of the traditional American “tribe.”

Did you read the article? It starts with:

"Is white the new black?"

So asks Kelefa Sanneh in the subtitle of "Beyond the Pale," his New Yorker review of several books on white America, wherein he concludes we may be witnessing "the slow birth of a people."

And concludes with

Black America seems united. White America is the house divided, for it is in the womb of white America that this new people is gestating and fighting to be born.

Pat's not talking "American values," he's talking about "White American values."

30 posted on 04/20/2010 7:22:39 AM PDT by whd23
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To: B Knotts
White America is the house divided, for it is in the womb of white America that this new people is gestating and fighting to be born
31 posted on 04/20/2010 7:24:56 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Kaslin

I see Pat’s off his meds again.


32 posted on 04/20/2010 7:28:24 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/1980)
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To: Kaslin

If you want to see what the TEA party looks like, walk into a Vietnamese nail shop and ask the question:

So what do you think of Obama?

Be prepared to duck flying scissors.


33 posted on 04/20/2010 7:28:48 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: whd23
You missed this:
The coming conflict is not so much racial as it is cultural, political and tribal.
I think he's wrong to predict a "conflict"...but I do think the Tea Party movement represents a reassertion of Traditional America, especially its cultural norms.

It has little to do with race or ethnicity. Remember that "white" Americans are made up of many different ethnicities, many of which were once not considered "white." What changed? It was the cultural assimilation of those groups into the traditional American culture.

I think culture and race are often conflated, wrongly. They are different things. Race is unimportant. Culture is very important.

34 posted on 04/20/2010 7:31:17 AM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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To: whd23

I should also add that the conflation of race and culture is, I believe, often done intentionally as a means of attacking traditional culture in a way that is difficult to defend.

The narrative is: if you defend traditional American culture, you are really just a racist. We see this being used against the Tea Partiers today.


35 posted on 04/20/2010 7:35:03 AM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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To: B Knotts
..and a constitutional republic is even more important!

"Can't we all just have a Constitutional republic?"

36 posted on 04/20/2010 7:35:28 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Carry_Okie
So those of us who think that the supremacy clause needs clarification and that the means of treaty ratification should be equivalent to ratifying an amendment are to be banned? I'm heartbroken

The supremacy clause does not need clarification. The problem is activist judges that read anything into this clause that they want. Similarly they have twisted the constitution in other areas to make law where none exists. The commerce clause among the most abused.

The judicial elite have also chosen to ignore parts of the constitution that does not fit their ideology. In effect the judiciary has become the legislative branch of government.

This most ignored part of the constitution is the tenth amendment below:

The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. The Tenth Amendment restates the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states by the constitution of the United States are reserved to the states or the people.

37 posted on 04/20/2010 7:38:12 AM PDT by cpdiii (Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: B Knotts

“...Americans are made up of many different ethnicities, many of which were once not considered “white.”...”

Which ethnicities were previously not considered to be ‘white,’ but now they are? I’m not saying that you’re wrong, I am just curious about this.


38 posted on 04/20/2010 7:40:34 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: Texan Tory

For example, consider southern Europeans. In the early 20th century, they would not have been considered to be truly “white,” but now clearly are.

To the degree we still make such distinctions, you can probably see the same happening now with Asians.


39 posted on 04/20/2010 7:44:49 AM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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To: norraad
..and a constitutional republic is even more important!

Well, that's really part of traditional American culture, isn't it?

40 posted on 04/20/2010 7:45:43 AM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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