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To: dead
"Clinton was directly responsible for Waco and deserves all the blame for that. "

I'd even take issue with this statement. Yes, Clinton, his subordinates and officials in Texas mishandled this, and perhaps even violated federal law with respect to assets deployed to the situation. But, David Koresh is the person who is directly responsible for Waco, not Bill Clinton.

If David Koresh's name was Abdul Hussein, and it was a muzzie compound rather than some faux-Christian sect, people would be showing no mercy for those killed in the "raid".

Koresh was mad-man, who probably institutionally molested young girls, and kept women against their will. The world is better off without him, it's just too bad the federal government was so fiercely incompetent that they allowed some 30 children to be killed in the process.

28 posted on 04/20/2010 11:40:39 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Uh. Well then the Turkish guy in Pennsylviania should be worried?


32 posted on 04/20/2010 11:42:12 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Koresh was mad-man, who probably institutionally molested young girls, and kept women against their will. The world is better off without him, it's just too bad the federal government was so fiercely incompetent that they allowed some 30 children to be killed in the process.

Koresh is to blame for his crimes and sins, and there are many, but Clinton is to blame for the government incompetence and ridiculous aggression, which killed those children directly.

You don't end alleged child molestation with tanks.

48 posted on 04/20/2010 11:50:11 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Interesting theory but I beg to differ.

I think any other religious sect would be treated with politically correct gloves. We cannot be even slightly harsh with battle field radicals at Gitmo.

How can you suggest the government and media would tolerate the killing of radicals identified as muslim?

The Left does believe that sincere Christianity is dangerous because it is potentially insubordinate. The Left believes Christians will resist their agenda. This makes them dangerous and the Left threat constructs them constantly to keep them under political thumb.


53 posted on 04/20/2010 11:51:53 AM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: OldDeckHand
Koresh was mad-man, who probably institutionally molested young girls, and kept women against their will.

No one knows for sure that this happened. They only have the medias word about that. They were totally wrong about Ruby Ridge and Elian Gonzalas. I'd say they were wrong about Koresh, too.

74 posted on 04/20/2010 12:13:32 PM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: OldDeckHand
If David Koresh's name was Abdul Hussein, and it was a muzzie compound rather than some faux-Christian sect, people would be showing no mercy for those killed in the "raid".

Many didn't anyway.

But even if it was Abdul, I would not adovcate shooting into a building with children in it, especially not shooting first.

Just where is that steel front door anyway? Maybe Morris knows?

87 posted on 04/20/2010 12:22:46 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: OldDeckHand
I'd even take issue with this statement. Yes, Clinton, his subordinates and officials in Texas mishandled this, and perhaps even violated federal law with respect to assets deployed to the situation. But, David Koresh is the person who is directly responsible for Waco, not Bill Clinton.

Koresh was mad-man, who probably institutionally molested young girls, and kept women against their will. The world is better off without him, it's just too bad the federal government was so fiercely incompetent that they allowed some 30 children to be killed in the process.

Sorry, I disagree with you here. I won't defend Koresh, as I also believe that he was a whack-job. However, the simple fact is that:

a) child molestation was NOT cause for the BATF to do a "no-knock" raid on the Davidians.

b) Koresh regularly went into town. If they wanted to arrest him, it could have been easily and safely done.

But then that wouldn't have generated an "exciting" news clip at the time that congressional funding of the BATF was being considered.

The simple fact is that there was NO REASON for all of those people to have been murdered (including the BATF agents killed during the initial assault). The blood was spilled due to political concerns.

Mark

112 posted on 04/20/2010 12:41:28 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: OldDeckHand
I can't believe how many people make excuses for lying to a judge for a warrant, defying the Posse Comitatus Act and carrying out a military style assault on a group of men, women and children to arrest a guy who jogged down a county road by himself twice a week.

Not to mention the complete cover up by all levels of government since then. Koresh is one guy and arresting him would have ended whatever he was actually doing. The FedGov and its alphabet agencies continue on.

146 posted on 04/20/2010 1:12:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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