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Nine-year wind farm fight splits Cape Cod (leftists VS leftists)
CNN ^ | 4-20-10 | Wayne Drash

Posted on 04/20/2010 12:42:46 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

The battle over the venture -- dozens of public hearings and nine years long -- has split members of American Indian tribes and pitted some of the nation's wealthiest people against each other. Liberals have squared off against fellow liberals. The most notable opponent was the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, whose family compound would have a view of the wind farm.

The late Walter Cronkite also raised objec

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: capewind; coal; cronkite; democrats; energy; ge; globalwarming; green; kennedy; leftcoast; moonbats; wind; windfall; windy
Happy Lenin's Birthday this Thursday you leftcoast Earth-worshipping moonbats.
1 posted on 04/20/2010 12:42:47 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

It’s about rich people’s views.


2 posted on 04/20/2010 12:44:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: WOBBLY BOB

We can afford fossil fuels! Let the little people look at them!


3 posted on 04/20/2010 12:46:05 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
The most notable opponent was the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, whose family compound would have a view of the wind farm

Yeah, a wind farm 20 MILES off shore.

4 posted on 04/20/2010 12:46:10 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Put these damned things in the back yard of some little plebeian! But don’t you DARE think about spoiling the view of we the IMPORTANT people.


5 posted on 04/20/2010 12:47:42 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: WOBBLY BOB
When moonbats battle moonbats, who wins?

The American public!

6 posted on 04/20/2010 12:48:04 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Conservative Bostonian, atheist pro-lifer, outnumbered by the clueless)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The liberal’s dilemma; “The world’s just gotta be perfect-especially the part I live in!”


7 posted on 04/20/2010 12:49:42 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I love this fight.

Highlights the total hypocrisy of the denizens of these expensive properties - Wall Streeters, Politicians and assorted do gooders who would mandate salt bans for us all, but don’t want their pretty seaviews marred by windmills.


8 posted on 04/20/2010 12:50:39 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Overrun the place with wind generators! These A holes want everyone else to suffer these things, ram them right up their compounds!!
9 posted on 04/20/2010 12:51:47 PM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: Paladin2
It’s about rich people’s views.

And property values.As well as yachting issues.

10 posted on 04/20/2010 12:53:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I’m enjoying the thought Teddy ‘Drown Em!’ Kennedy and Walter ‘I lied about Tet’ Cronkite are cussing up a storm wherever they are today...


11 posted on 04/20/2010 12:54:39 PM PDT by Badeye (I can see NOVEMBER from My HOUSE.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

And it couldn’t have been put in a better spot - what with all the hot air blowing out to see from onshore.


12 posted on 04/20/2010 12:55:37 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I’ll probably get flamed, but wind farms are ugly. I drive across Wyoming from time to time on I-80. I’m weird, but I find a beauty in the big empty. Now these wind mills are all over the place. It’s ugly. Give me a good old coal, gas fired, or nuclear plant. They’re reliable and compact.


13 posted on 04/20/2010 12:58:15 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: throwback

ugly AND ineffective.


14 posted on 04/20/2010 12:58:56 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: throwback
Ugly and they don't put out the juice.


15 posted on 04/20/2010 1:07:15 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

ugly AND ineffective

Yep, but they make the kids feel good.


16 posted on 04/20/2010 1:12:39 PM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Leftists vs. leftists.

I doubt if there’s anyone left on Cape Cod who isn’t a leftist.

If they ever caught a conservative hanging around there, they’d probably impale him to put an end to his carbon emissions.


17 posted on 04/20/2010 1:13:22 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: throwback

They are ugly but somehow compelling. When I drive by one it’s like I can’t look away. Hypnotic, Quixotic...a certain undefined train wreck quality, perhaps. Ah, well....fine with me if they spray disemboweled seagull parts all over the Kennedy Compound.


18 posted on 04/20/2010 1:15:18 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: throwback

No flames from me.

Here in Michigan, Consumers energy wants a 60,000 acre wind farm with between 40 and 70 windmills of 4 and 5 hundred feet tall. Something like that will be visible over an area of hundreds of square miles.

I’ll nake a nice compact coal plant sitting behind a grove of trees on a couple hundred acres any day.


19 posted on 04/20/2010 1:15:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Puppage

In other words, over the horizon, correct?


20 posted on 04/20/2010 1:18:26 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Gay State Conservative; Paladin2; All

Now that the liberals in the Supreme Court have decided that it is OK to exercise eminent domain for general economic benefit, let’s look at using it here. More employment for wind workers, extra taxes(?), more high velocity dollars circulating.


21 posted on 04/20/2010 1:19:58 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Unlike Obama you do have a gift. I was starting to drift off into the poetry of your vision and then you threw in the seagull guts. The laugh seized me up; think I got a hernia.
22 posted on 04/20/2010 1:20:48 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Constitution Day
In other words, over the horizon, correct?

Well, I am not sure about that, but 20 miles? I mean, how intrusive could it really be?

23 posted on 04/20/2010 1:22:40 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

I’m pretty sure that at sea level, that is WAY past the horizon.

Recently there was discussion about oil exploration off the coast of NC recently. I believe they said that @ 15 miles offshore, the potential oil rigs would be over the horizon.


24 posted on 04/20/2010 1:26:45 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: WOBBLY BOB

They are towering, loathsome technobeasts — hideous, gruesome monuments to the tyranny of objects.


25 posted on 04/20/2010 1:26:56 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: Cicero

“I doubt if there’s anyone left on Cape Cod who isn’t a leftist.”

There are a lot of VERY rich people on Nantucket Island. Lots of Wall Street types. Lots of Republicans. Martha’s Vinyard tends to be more liberal. Nantucket is more conservative(for Mass).

Also, the proposed sight is on a sandbar that on the average is only about 5’ deep.


26 posted on 04/20/2010 1:27:09 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: cripplecreek
Consumers energy wants a 60,000 acre wind farm with between 40 and 70 windmills of 4 and 5 hundred feet tall.

500 feet tall? That's huge. What's the diameter of the propellers? I would imagine those would make quite a racket.

27 posted on 04/20/2010 1:27:46 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism, Communism - it's all shades of black.)
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To: Constitution Day; Puppage

The main opponents IIRC were the summer residents of Nantucket’s quaint, cute and tiny domiciles.

About 25 miles offshore is Nantucket, hence the wind farm would certainly be in eyesight.


28 posted on 04/20/2010 1:29:21 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: throwback
I’ll probably get flamed, but wind farms are ugly.

i'm not a proponent of wind farms, but we have these windmills just outside our town in the central valley of California... they stand on some rolling hills... only a portion of the hills has them... i think they're pretty... they are white and they spin... against the green, they look nice... haha... they don't bother me... i am enjoying the fight...

29 posted on 04/20/2010 1:29:38 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Dionysius
They are towering, loathsome technobeasts — hideous, gruesome monuments to the tyranny of objects.

Sooo...you're saying they should have them at Cape Cod?

30 posted on 04/20/2010 1:30:35 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Republicans...the REAL civil rights party.)
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To: swarthyguy

Ahhh, I see. Thanks.


31 posted on 04/20/2010 1:31:06 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: latina4dubya

You either live near Altamont Pass or in Tehachapi. Lotsa windmills in those places. :^)


32 posted on 04/20/2010 1:31:36 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism, Communism - it's all shades of black.)
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To: swarthyguy
The main opponents IIRC were the summer residents of Nantucket’s quaint, cute and tiny domiciles.

Teddy was the loudest voice against it and he was in Hyannis Port.

33 posted on 04/20/2010 1:31:42 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Disambiguator

you got me!


34 posted on 04/20/2010 1:32:07 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Dallas59
We can afford fossil fuels! Let the little people look at them!

Fossil fuels are cheaper. Without subsidies no one would ever put up a windmill, except possibly in a few isolated places off the grid.

35 posted on 04/20/2010 1:34:41 PM PDT by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: Badeye

I’m enjoying the thought Teddy ‘Drown Em!’ Kennedy and Walter ‘I lied about Tet’ Cronkite are cussing up a storm wherever they are today...”

Around here, we call it HELL.


36 posted on 04/20/2010 1:35:38 PM PDT by jessduntno (I've never been a member of the Democrat Party. I stepped in it once, but scraped it off.)
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To: Puppage

OK, I do remember the original opposition came from the ChumBuckets of Nantucket.

I don’t know, but Kennedy prolly signed on as a gesture of support for Kerry.

It’s a fairly long line with some windmills in a cluster and may very well be observed from the mainland.

The people on Nantucket would definitely be able to see it from some parts of the island.

Anyway, it does highlight the total hypocrisy, not only of Democrats, but of Repubs who vacation on the island, the Wall/Welfare Streeters drooling over green futures markets but don’t want their views marred by these giant fans.

Let ‘em eat chowdah!


37 posted on 04/20/2010 1:36:12 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: magslinger

Time Magazine had an article about these huge wind turbine installed in Denmark, the high cost and what not.

Total output per turbine - enough for 4000 homes.

Seems completely nutty.


38 posted on 04/20/2010 1:37:31 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: swarthyguy
Anyway, it does highlight the total hypocrisy, not only of Democrats...

Exactly my point. LOL

39 posted on 04/20/2010 1:41:27 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: latina4dubya

It is odd. The first time I saw some, I thought they were kind of cool and were almost like sculptures. After the next 200, they started to look like utility poles.


40 posted on 04/20/2010 1:43:01 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“The most notable opponent was the late Sen. Ted Kennedy”

Ted Kennedy (D-HELL) may he never rest, passed even his hypocritical standards when he was overheard to say that he could not believe anyone was serious about ruining the waters of the Cape with these things...


41 posted on 04/20/2010 1:48:57 PM PDT by jessduntno (I've never been a member of the Democrat Party. I stepped in it once, but scraped it off.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
With Western Mass and it's Mountain Range(s) actually part of the Appalachian Trail (or so I am told) one might wonder is their gas in dem hills and it is not far from the Marcellus Shale.

This could be a close source for these loons but they would never go for it, instead of windmills, especially with a highly efficient Co-Generation Gas Turbine with cycle efficiencies in the 60% range, they could power both of their darn Islands.

A friend has a friend that is the Consultant for a firm that was the checker on a proposed Natural Gas Tank for Boston with the gas source from Africa. The Eco-Greenies scared everyone into saying no, when this architect type new their fears they were selling were crazy from a technical perspective.

Once again, the Comrades in MA take it in the shorts...

42 posted on 04/20/2010 1:53:57 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I don’t blame them for not wanting their view spoiled by those things.

But—had liberals ended LEGAL immigration 45 years ago instead of opening the floodgates to it, we’d have half as many people and twice as much fossil fuel to go around at half the price.

I guess they thought they could pack the USA full of people, and still have plenty of resources to go around.


43 posted on 04/20/2010 1:59:04 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: taildragger

A NG terminal in FallRiver was also cancelled due to hysteria.


44 posted on 04/20/2010 2:24:31 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: Puppage

You seen some of those cute quaint and tiny houses on the island.

My word, 25K square feet and what not.

All AC’ed, even for a Nantucket Summer, SUV’s galore, limos and private jets.

No bother to me, but for the unmitigated twofacedness.


45 posted on 04/20/2010 2:27:00 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: throwback
It is odd. The first time I saw some, I thought they were kind of cool and were almost like sculptures. After the next 200, they started to look like utility poles.

i do think the newer, more modern ones look better than the older ones... they remind me of giant soldiers lined up on the hillside... i think because they are on lovely rolling hills, they don't look so bad... i know that probably sounds weird... if they were in dirt, or some raggedy field, it would look ugly to me... it might bother me if they went on for miles and miles along the freeway, but it's a relatively short span...

46 posted on 04/20/2010 2:39:33 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: throwback
The worse part is: they will probably be there forever! When
they break down, it's often cheaper to abandon them than to
repair them.
47 posted on 04/20/2010 3:59:29 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
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48 posted on 04/20/2010 4:01:25 PM PDT by erman (A day without democrats is like a day without toilets backing up)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Kill an endangered bird with a shotgun and one is a criminal.

Kill a thousand endangered birds with a windmill and one is an environmentalist.

49 posted on 04/20/2010 4:01:28 PM PDT by Jacquerie (It is happening here)
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To: jessduntno

Same ‘round here’.


50 posted on 04/21/2010 6:08:32 AM PDT by Badeye (I can see NOVEMBER from My HOUSE.)
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