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Sarah Palin's 'Christian Nation' Remarks Spark Debate
Wash Post ^ | 4/20/10 | Ted Davis

Posted on 04/20/2010 5:32:20 PM PDT by pissant

Is America a Christian nation?

Sarah Palin said on Friday that it's "mind-boggling" to suggest otherwise.

But two groups dedicated to the separation of church and state are now speaking out against her, arguing that she is misreading the founders' intent.

"It's incredibly hypocritical that Sarah Palin, who disapproves of government involvement in just about anything, now suddenly wants the government to help people be religious," Barry Lynn, the executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, told ABC News.

"It is wildly inconsistent with her views on limited government to get the government involved in matters of faith."

Lynn was reacting to remarks Palin gave last Friday in Louisville, Ky., one day after a federal judge in Wisconsin ruled that the National Day of Prayer, created in 1952 by Congress, violated the First Amendment.

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Is America a Christian nation?

Darn tootin it is!

1 posted on 04/20/2010 5:32:21 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

You gotta admit, Sarah Palin is the most influential woman in America. She just opens her mouth, and the demons howl.


2 posted on 04/20/2010 5:33:50 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Yes they do. Same with Bachmann. They hate these patriots.


3 posted on 04/20/2010 5:34:39 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

There’s a debate concerning when this country was lost. Many believe it was lost when Society removed the Ten Commandments from the ‘public square’. We have no ‘moral code’.
We are a rudderless lot.


4 posted on 04/20/2010 5:35:04 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: Brilliant

That means she’s gotta be doing something right.


5 posted on 04/20/2010 5:35:11 PM PDT by JayVee (Joseph)
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To: pissant

It must really bother Obama that he’s in the White House ... and she controls the debate. Haha.

SnakeDoc


6 posted on 04/20/2010 5:36:15 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: pissant
“It's incredibly hypocritical that Sarah Palin, who disapproves of government involvement in just about anything, now suddenly wants the government to help people be religious,” Barry Lynn, the executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State

Hey Lynn, show me where Sarah Palin says the government should shove religion down the throats of anybody, or be “help people be religious”. Government can't help anyone be religious.
That doesn't mean this country is not a Christian country. The demographics tell us we are a Christian country, contrary to what the Kenyan Marxist keeps saying.

7 posted on 04/20/2010 5:37:10 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: pissant
Does the esteemed Barry Lynn ever do anything besides complain? I mean other than answer phones at Moonbat Central.
8 posted on 04/20/2010 5:38:03 PM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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To: pissant

If Sarah Palin said honey is sticky, the liberals would throw a tantrum about it.


9 posted on 04/20/2010 5:38:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: pissant

I must disagree. When one tallies the usury, sexual immorality, drunkenness, child abortion and neglect, divorce, covetousness, fraud, waste, blasphemy, idolatry, and various other sins sanctified by the majority of population and government, it becomes pretty obvious it is indeed not a Christian nation.


10 posted on 04/20/2010 5:39:09 PM PDT by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: Brilliant

It’s awesome! She may ultimately play herself out of the race in 2012, but she may just save the republic.


11 posted on 04/20/2010 5:41:11 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight!!")
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To: pissant

Mere neutrality in matters of religion from this government would be a relief. Instead, the Dem/Communists are actively engaged in persecuting Judeo-Christian belief while embracing Islam and secular paganism. The Founders would faint dead away.


12 posted on 04/20/2010 5:41:38 PM PDT by Argus
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To: JPG
Yes he does! Barry is an IRS informant. He tells the IRS to go after religious institutions whom he claims do not deserve to have Tax exempt status.

The guy is lower than Whale $HIT.

13 posted on 04/20/2010 5:43:48 PM PDT by wmileo
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To: pissant

I wonder if Barry the fraud Linn, believes in Hell?

Either way, I wish he’d go to Hell immediately.


14 posted on 04/20/2010 5:45:49 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: pissant
Well, to be fair - a Christian Nation probably isn't a Nation that 'embraces' 1M abortions a year as a 'right'... Nor one where homosexuality is 'celebrated' in all of the media venues.

But if Mrs. Palin wants to call the Nation to repentance - to embrace its Christian heritage ... I salute her for that.

2 Chronicles 7:14
[And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him]... "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land".

God is long suffering and patient, but we also should remember the other side of the coin,

Psalm 9:17a
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God...

15 posted on 04/20/2010 5:46:07 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: pissant

Of course we are. It is in all of our founding documents. Most Americans claim Christianity. To suggest otherwise if pure idiocy. (Obama)


16 posted on 04/20/2010 5:47:17 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: pissant

There are people who insist the founders did not have a Christian nation in mind. Yet at the Tea Party rally in Washington, Michelle Bachmann mentioned how the Washington Monument is capped with the phrase, “Laus Deo” (Praise God) that faces Capitol Hill. Snopes.com goes out of its way to say that the monument was capped in 1888 and should not be interpreted to mean that the founding fathers were trying to established a Christian nation. 100 years later obviously Congress considered the nation to be Christian. So, one way or another America at one time was considered to be a Christian nation.


17 posted on 04/20/2010 5:48:03 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: pissant; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

18 posted on 04/20/2010 5:48:11 PM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Argus

The liberal interpretation depends upon a traditional, formal definition of religion, especially when it pertains to pray or the use of the Bible, versus a less substantial ideology such as Secular Humanism, as well as the presumption that the state can be almost absolutely separate from the former and its distinctive morality, and that the overall history of church/state relations for almost 150 years did not manifest the Founder’s interpretation of the First Amendment, but was in violation of it....

Jefferson’s letter and the FBI’s restoration work are among the items in an exhibit at the Library of Congress called, “Religion and the Founding of the American Republic.” The exhibit also notes that Jefferson began to attend worship services held at the House of Representatives two days after writing the letter, and that he permitted regular worship services to be held there, a practice that continued until after the Civil War, with preachers from every Protestant denomination appearing there. The Library of Congress exhibit records that

As early as January 1806 a female evangelist, Dorothy Ripley, delivered a camp meeting-style exhortation in the House to Jefferson, Vice President Aaron Burr, and a “crowded audience.”...In attending church services on public property, Jefferson and Madison consciously and deliberately were offering symbolic support to religion as a prop for republican government. [19][20]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Separation_of_church_and_state


19 posted on 04/20/2010 5:48:15 PM PDT by daniel1212 ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out " (Acts 3:19))
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To: incredulous joe

If the GOP puts up a soft Republican to run in 2012 they will play themselves out of the race because we aren’t going to have another McCain status quo election. If we are going to fight we should be able to fight for someone who will stand up and speak the truth and take the heat because I’m done fighting for those who will not fight for themselves.


20 posted on 04/20/2010 5:49:42 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Some want to enslave your body others your soul.)
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To: pissant

Must be a college graduate at least, confusing nation and govt like that!


21 posted on 04/20/2010 5:51:07 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: HarleyD; All

sidenote: do you know an alternative site to snopes?


22 posted on 04/20/2010 5:52:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: pissant
America is a Christian nation alright. Based on God and LIMITED Government.

Go Sarah!!!!!

23 posted on 04/20/2010 5:54:01 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (If you think education is expensive try ignorance.)
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To: pissant
America is a Christian nation alright. Based on God and LIMITED Government.

Go Sarah!!!!!

24 posted on 04/20/2010 5:54:02 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (If you think education is expensive try ignorance.)
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To: pissant
As the resident atheist, it's funny to me when atheists get crazy over this topic. (Hint: Next time one of them uses the "separation of church and state" line, ask them if it's in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution--for those who don't know, that's a trick question).) They (and frankly some conservatives) don't seem to grasp that the first ammendment as interpreted by the SCOTUS means that government should not prefer one religion to another, or religion to nonreligious practice.

...and that has NOTHING to do with the national identity as a Christian nation. When the percentage is, what, 80% Christian?

I mean, what idiot would say we do not identify ourselves as a Christian nation?

Oh...THAT idiot.

25 posted on 04/20/2010 5:55:04 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Conservative Bostonian, atheist pro-lifer, outnumbered by the clueless)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

The only basis for equality in our democracy is the biblical belief that man has value because he is created in the image of God and is loved by Him, each and every one.

Absent that, we have no equality. (We certainly didn’t evolve equally.) We are not equally bright, good looking, physically healthy, etc. Nor are we all of the same utilitarian value to our fellows.

Absent the biblical belief, we might as well be social darwinists (nazis) with a survival of the fittest philosophy; or breed citizens of one ancestry (Aryan or otherwise); or believe in a caste system (with 2000 different levels); or believe that men ought to be servants to animals (that one would really be popular these days).


26 posted on 04/20/2010 5:57:53 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: pissant
"It is wildly inconsistent with her views on limited government to get the government involved in matters...

Mr Lynn I believe you are missing the point although apparently that is not surprising. The point is that there can be less authoritarian government if there is more Christianity.

It's kind of like the Soviet Union outlawing Christianity, or a man cannot serve two masters. Less religion, more authoritarian government; more religion, less authoritarian government.

Get it?

27 posted on 04/20/2010 5:59:56 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: presently no screen name

Wish I did. Snopes tends to be liberally influenced (what else).


28 posted on 04/20/2010 6:01:03 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: presently no screen name; Jo Nuvark
sidenote: do you know an alternative site to snopes?
FReeper Jo Nuvark posted a nice list of alternatives to snopes on THIS thread:
Is Snopes Liberal?

29 posted on 04/20/2010 6:04:00 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: HarleyD

ping to my post #29


30 posted on 04/20/2010 6:04:30 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Thank you!


31 posted on 04/20/2010 6:06:45 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Argus
Mere neutrality in matters of religion from this government would be a relief.

Instead, the Dem/Communists are actively engaged in persecuting Judeo-Christian belief while embracing Islam and secular paganism... - Argus

Bingo!

Ann Coulter recently summarized this same observation, in her comments about retiring Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens' position on this subject:

He has long found any religious practice not crushed by the government to be an "establishment of religion." - Ann Coulter

32 posted on 04/20/2010 6:12:50 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

A real alternative to snopes has to replace it on everything, not just on the political issues. Otherwise people will still go to snopes to see if that email virus alert is real or not.


33 posted on 04/20/2010 6:13:21 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: presently no screen name

:o)


34 posted on 04/20/2010 6:13:58 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: pissant

Yeah I’m going to listen to some atheist asshole try to tell me what Christianity and conservatism are and how they don’t mesh.


35 posted on 04/20/2010 6:17:48 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Any dissent means you are a troll.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

“It must really bother Obama that he’s in the White House ... and she controls the debate. Haha.”

That’s what happens when you think you can win debates with lines such as:
“I won”
“the time for debate is over”
“Let me be clear...”
“the tea partiers should thank me for cutting tax cuts...”

Liberals don’t know how to intellectually defend their positions so all they can do is ram everything through and compare us to McVeigh.


36 posted on 04/20/2010 6:20:06 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: SnakeDoctor

“It must really bother Obama that he’s in the White House ... and she controls the debate. Haha.

SnakeDoc”

You nailed it SnakeDoc!


37 posted on 04/20/2010 6:23:41 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: pissant

“It is wildly inconsistent with her views on limited government to get the government involved in matters of faith.”

No it’s not. A faith based government would have the govt out of welfare in order for religious charities to fill in the void. All that money could be going for churches and Catholic schools instead of taxpayer funded bureaucracies and public schools.
The secular govt needs a welfare state because nobody else would help the poor in their world without religion.


38 posted on 04/20/2010 6:25:50 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: pissant

So two groups filled with God-hating Azz holes dont agree with Palin that America is a Christian nation.

BFD.


39 posted on 04/20/2010 6:31:10 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Anti-Utopian
I must disagree. When one tallies the usury, sexual immorality, drunkenness, child abortion and neglect, divorce, covetousness, fraud, waste, blasphemy, idolatry, and various other sins sanctified by the majority of population and government, it becomes pretty obvious it is indeed not a Christian nation.

I must agree with your disagree. And even Sarah Palin is pro artificial birth control, which is anything but Christian. See Humanae Vitae.
40 posted on 04/20/2010 6:32:45 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: pissant

Anyone who says the USofA is not a Christian Nation has FLUNKED his US History classes.

Early Years
The First Charter of Virginia (granted by King James I, on April 10, 1606)
• We, greatly commending, and graciously accepting of, their Desires for the Furtherance of so noble a Work, which may, by the Providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the Glory of his Divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian Religion to such People, as yet live in Darkness and miserable Ignorance of the true Knowledge and Worship of God…
Instructions for the Virginia Colony (1606)
Lastly and chiefly the way to prosper and achieve good success is to make yourselves all of one mind for the good of your country and your own, and to serve and fear God the Giver of all Goodness, for every plantation which our Heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted out.

William Bradford
• wrote that they [the Pilgrims] were seeking:
• 1) “a better, and easier place of living”; and that “the children of the group were being drawn away by evil examples into extravagance and dangerous courses [in Holland]“
• 2) “The great hope, and for the propagating and advancing the gospel of the kingdom of Christ in those remote parts of the world”
The Mayflower Compact (authored by William Bradford) 1620 | Signing of the Mayflower painting | Picture of Compact
“Having undertaken, for the glory of God, and advancement of the Christian faith, and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one of another, covenant and combine our selves together…”
_______________________________________________________________

John Adams and John Hancock:
We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]

John Adams:
“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
• “[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress

“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” —October 11, 1798

“I have examined all religions, as well as my narrow sphere, my straightened means, and my busy life, would allow; and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more philosophy than all the libraries I have seen.” December 25, 1813 letter to Thomas Jefferson

“Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell.” [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817] |
.......click here to see this quote in its context and to see John Adams’ quotes taken OUT of context!

Samuel Adams: | Portrait of Sam Adams | Powerpoint presentation on John, John Quincy, and Sam Adams
“ He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all… Our forefathers opened the Bible to all.” [ “American Independence,” August 1, 1776. Speech delivered at the State House in Philadelphia]

“ Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity… and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.” [October 4, 1790]

John Quincy Adams:
• “Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the world, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day [the Fourth of July]?” “Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior? That it forms a leading event in the progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer’s mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity”?
—1837, at the age of 69, when he delivered a Fourth of July speech at Newburyport, Massachusetts.

“The Law given from Sinai [The Ten Commandments] was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code.”
John Quincy Adams. Letters to his son. p. 61

Elias Boudinot: | Portrait of Elias Boudinot
“ Be religiously careful in our choice of all public officers . . . and judge of the tree by its fruits.”

Charles Carroll - signer of the Declaration of Independence | Portrait of Charles Carroll
“ Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure...are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.” [Source: To James McHenry on November 4, 1800.]

Benjamin Franklin: | Portrait of Ben Franklin
“ God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” –Constitutional Convention of 1787 | original manuscript of this speech

“In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for Divine protection. Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered… do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?” [Constitutional Convention, Thursday June 28, 1787]

In Benjamin Franklin’s 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach “the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern.”

In 1787 when Franklin helped found Benjamin Franklin University, it was dedicated as “a nursery of religion and learning, built on Christ, the Cornerstone.”

Alexander Hamilton:
• Hamilton began work with the Rev. James Bayard to form the Christian Constitutional Society to help spread over the world the two things which Hamilton said made America great:
(1) Christianity
(2) a Constitution formed under Christianity.
“The Christian Constitutional Society, its object is first: The support of the Christian religion. Second: The support of the United States.”

On July 12, 1804 at his death, Hamilton said, “I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me.”

“For my own part, I sincerely esteem it [the Constitution] a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests.” [1787 after the Constitutional Convention]

“I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man.”

John Hancock:
• “In circumstances as dark as these, it becomes us, as Men and Christians, to reflect that whilst every prudent measure should be taken to ward off the impending judgments, …at the same time all confidence must be withheld from the means we use; and reposed only on that God rules in the armies of Heaven, and without His whole blessing, the best human counsels are but foolishness… Resolved; …Thursday the 11th of May…to humble themselves before God under the heavy judgments felt and feared, to confess the sins that have deserved them, to implore the Forgiveness of all our transgressions, and a spirit of repentance and reformation …and a Blessing on the … Union of the American Colonies in Defense of their Rights [for which hitherto we desire to thank Almighty God]…That the people of Great Britain and their rulers may have their eyes opened to discern the things that shall make for the peace of the nation…for the redress of America’s many grievances, the restoration of all her invaded liberties, and their security to the latest generations.
“A Day of Fasting, Humiliation and Prayer, with a total abstinence from labor and recreation. Proclamation on April 15, 1775”

Patrick Henry:
“Orator of the Revolution.”
• This is all the inheritance I can give my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed.”
—The Last Will and Testament of Patrick Henry

“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.” [May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses]

“The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed.”

John Jay:
“ Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” Source: October 12, 1816. The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, Henry P. Johnston, ed., (New York: Burt Franklin, 1970), Vol. IV, p. 393.

“Whether our religion permits Christians to vote for infidel rulers is a question which merits more consideration than it seems yet to have generally received either from the clergy or the laity. It appears to me that what the prophet said to Jehoshaphat about his attachment to Ahab [”Shouldest thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord?” 2 Chronicles 19:2] affords a salutary lesson.” [The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, 1794-1826, Henry P. Johnston, editor (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1893), Vol. IV, p.365]

Thomas Jefferson:
“ The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend to all the happiness of man.”

“Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus.”

“I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.”

“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” (excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nations capital) [Source: Merrill . D. Peterson, ed., Jefferson Writings, (New York: Literary Classics of the United States, Inc., 1984), Vol. IV, p. 289. From Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, 1781.]

Samuel Johnston:
• “It is apprehended that Jews, Mahometans (Muslims), pagans, etc., may be elected to high offices under the government of the United States. Those who are Mahometans, or any others who are not professors of the Christian religion, can never be elected to the office of President or other high office, [unless] first the people of America lay aside the Christian religion altogether, it may happen. Should this unfortunately take place, the people will choose such men as think as they do themselves.
[Elliot’s Debates, Vol. IV, pp 198-199, Governor Samuel Johnston, July 30, 1788 at the North Carolina Ratifying Convention]

James Madison
“ We’ve staked our future on our ability to follow the Ten Commandments with all of our heart.”

“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” [1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia]

• I have sometimes thought there could not be a stronger testimony in favor of religion or against temporal enjoyments, even the most rational and manly, than for men who occupy the most honorable and gainful departments and [who] are rising in reputation and wealth, publicly to declare the unsatisfactoriness [of temportal enjoyments] by becoming fervent advocates in the cause of Christ; and I wish you may give in your evidence in this way.
Letter by Madison to William Bradford (September 25, 1773)
• In 1812, President Madison signed a federal bill which economically aided the Bible Society of Philadelphia in its goal of the mass distribution of the Bible.
“ An Act for the relief of the Bible Society of Philadelphia” Approved February 2, 1813 by Congress

“It is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity toward each other.”

• A watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest, while we are building ideal monuments of renown and bliss here, we neglect to have our names enrolled in the Annals of Heaven. [Letter by Madison to William Bradford [urging him to make sure of his own salvation] November 9, 1772]

At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
He will save us.”
[Baron Charles Montesquieu, wrote in 1748; “Nor is there liberty if the power of judging is not separated from legislative power and from executive power. If it [the power of judging] were joined to legislative power, the power over life and liberty of the citizens would be arbitrary, for the judge would be the legislature if it were joined to the executive power, the judge could have the force of an oppressor. All would be lost if the same … body of principal men … exercised these three powers.” Madison claimed Isaiah 33:22 as the source of division of power in government
See also: pp.241-242 in Teaching and Learning America’s Christian History: The Principle approach by Rosalie Slater]

James McHenry – Signer of the Constitution
Public utility pleads most forcibly for the general distribution of the Holy Scriptures. The doctrine they preach, the obligations they impose, the punishment they threaten, the rewards they promise, the stamp and image of divinity they bear, which produces a conviction of their truths, can alone secure to society, order and peace, and to our courts of justice and constitutions of government, purity, stability and usefulness. In vain, without the Bible, we increase penal laws and draw entrenchments around our institutions. Bibles are strong entrenchments. Where they abound, men cannot pursue wicked courses, and at the same time enjoy quiet conscience.

Jedediah Morse:
“To the kindly influence of Christianity we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness which mankind now enjoys. . . . Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present republican forms of government, and all blessings which flow from them, must fall with them.”

John Peter Gabriel Muhlenberg
In a sermon delivered to his Virginia congregation on Jan. 21, 1776, he preached from Ecclesiastes 3.
Arriving at verse 8, which declares that there is a time of war and a time of peace, Muhlenberg noted that this surely was not the time of peace; this was the time of war. Concluding with a prayer, and while standing in full view of the congregation, he removed his clerical robes to reveal that beneath them he was wearing the uniform of an officer in the Continental army! He marched to the back of the church; ordered the drum to beat for recruits and over three hundred men joined him, becoming the Eighth Virginia Brigade. John Peter Muhlenberg finished the Revolution as a Major-General, having been at Valley Forge and having participated in the battles of Brandywine, Germantown, Monmouth, Stonypoint, and Yorktown.

Thomas Paine:
“ It has been the error of the schools to teach astronomy, and all the other sciences, and subjects of natural philosophy, as accomplishments only; whereas they should be taught theologically, or with reference to the Being who is the author of them: for all the principles of science are of divine origin. Man cannot make, or invent, or contrive principles: he can only discover them; and he ought to look through the discovery to the Author.”
“ The evil that has resulted from the error of the schools, in teaching natural philosophy as an accomplishment only, has been that of generating in the pupils a species of atheism. Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence. They labour with studied ingenuity to ascribe every thing they behold to innate properties of matter, and jump over all the rest by saying, that matter is eternal.” “The Existence of God—1810”

Benjamin Rush:
• “I lament that we waste so much time and money in punishing crimes and take so little pains to prevent them…we neglect the only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government; that is, the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by means of the Bible; for this Divine Book, above all others, constitutes the soul of republicanism.” “By withholding the knowledge of [the Scriptures] from children, we deprive ourselves of the best means of awakening moral sensibility in their minds.” [Letter written (1790’s) in Defense of the Bible in all schools in America]
• “Christianity is the only true and perfect religion.”
• “If moral precepts alone could have reformed mankind, the mission of the Son of God into our world would have been unnecessary.”

“Let the children who are sent to those schools be taught to read and write and above all, let both sexes be carefully instructed in the principles and obligations of the Christian religion. This is the most essential part of education”
Letters of Benjamin Rush, “To the citizens of Philadelphia: A Plan for Free Schools”, March 28, 1787

Justice Joseph Story:
“ I verily believe Christianity necessary to the support of civil society. One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the Common Law. . . There never has been a period in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying its foundations.”
[Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States p. 593]
“ Infidels and pagans were banished from the halls of justice as unworthy of credit.” [Life and letters of Joseph Story, Vol. II 1851, pp. 8-9.]
“ At the time of the adoption of the constitution, and of the amendment to it, now under consideration [i.e., the First Amendment], the general, if not the universal sentiment in America was, that Christianity ought to receive encouragement from the state, so far as was not incompatible with the private rights of conscience, and the freedom of religious worship.”
[Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States p. 593]

Noah Webster:
“ The duties of men are summarily comprised in the Ten Commandments, consisting of two tables; one comprehending the duties which we owe immediately to God-the other, the duties we owe to our fellow men.”

“In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed...No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”
[Source: 1828, in the preface to his American Dictionary of the English Language]

Let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers just men who will rule in the fear of God [Exodus 18:21]. . . . If the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted . . . If our government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws. [Noah Webster, The History of the United States (New Haven: Durrie and Peck, 1832), pp. 336-337, 49]

“All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.” [Noah Webster. History. p. 339]

“The Bible was America’s basic textbook
in all fields.” [Noah Webster. Our Christian Heritage p.5]

“Education is useless without the Bible” [Noah Webster. Our Christian Heritage p.5 ]

George Washington:

Farewell Address: The name of American, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations. With slight shades of difference, you have the same religion” ...and later: “...reason and experience both forbid us to expect, that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle...”

“ It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible.”

“What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.” [speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs May 12, 1779]

“To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian” [May 2, 1778, at Valley Forge]

During his inauguration, Washington took the oath as prescribed by the Constitution but added several religious components to that official ceremony. Before taking his oath of office, he summoned a Bible on which to take the oath, added the words “So help me God!” to the end of the oath, then leaned over and kissed the Bible.

Nelly Custis-Lewis (Washington’s adopted daughter):
Is it necessary that any one should [ask], “Did General Washington avow himself to be a believer in Christianity?” As well may we question his patriotism, his heroic devotion to his country. His mottos were, “Deeds, not Words”; and, “For God and my Country.”

“ O Most Glorious God, in Jesus Christ, my merciful and loving Father; I acknowledge and confess my guilt in the weak and imperfect performance of the duties of this day. I have called on Thee for pardon and forgiveness of my sins, but so coldly and carelessly that my prayers are become my sin, and they stand in need of pardon.”
“ I have sinned against heaven and before Thee in thought, word, and deed. I have contemned Thy majesty and holy laws. I have likewise sinned by omitting what I ought to have done and committing what I ought not. I have rebelled against the light, despising Thy mercies and judgment, and broken my vows and promise. I have neglected the better things. My iniquities are multiplied and my sins are very great. I confess them, O Lord, with shame and sorrow, detestation and loathing and desire to be vile in my own eyes as I have rendered myself vile in Thine. I humbly beseech Thee to be merciful to me in the free pardon of my sins for the sake of Thy dear Son and only Savior Jesus Christ who came to call not the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Thou gavest Thy Son to die for me.”
[George Washington; from a 24 page authentic handwritten manuscript book dated April 21-23, 1752
William J. Johnson George Washington, the Christian (New York: The Abingdon Press, New York & Cincinnati, 1919), pp. 24-35.]

“Although guided by our excellent Constitution in the discharge of official duties, and actuated, through the whole course of my public life, solely by a wish to promote the best interests of our country; yet, without the beneficial interposition of the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, we could not have reached the distinguished situation which we have attained with such unprecedented rapidity. To HIM, therefore, should we bow with gratitude and reverence, and endeavor to merit a continuance of HIS special favors”. [1797 letter to John Adams]

James Wilson:
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution
Supreme Court Justice appointed by George Washington
Spoke 168 times during the Constitutional Convention

“Christianity is part of the common law”
[Sources: James Wilson, Course of Lectures [vol 3, p.122]; and quoted in Updegraph v. The Commonwealth, 11 Serg, & R. 393, 403 (1824).]

Public Institutions
Liberty Bell Inscription:
“ Proclaim liberty throughout the land and to all the inhabitants thereof” [Leviticus 25:10]

http://www.eadshome.com/QuotesoftheFounders.htm


41 posted on 04/20/2010 6:34:05 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: SmokingJoe
Barry Lynn, the executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, told ABC News.

That would be Barry Spawn of Satan Lynn....people should know his full name.

42 posted on 04/20/2010 6:35:03 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( USMC SSgt Patrick O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 182)
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To: Brilliant
...She just opens her mouth, and the demons howl.

That may be more true than you know.

43 posted on 04/20/2010 6:45:51 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: pissant
I am not a theist, but recently wrote this:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

—Amendment I to Constitution of the United States of America

The above words from the beginning of the first amendment, which establishes the unambiguous freedoms of religion, speech, press, assembly, and petition in the United States, is sadly used by the enemies of this country, particularly against the very freedom of religion the amendment is intended to guarantee. That assault requires a twisting of the meaning of the words from "no law establishing or prohibiting," to something not found in the Constitution anywhere, "separation of church and state."

When Thomas Jefferson wrote those words, "separation of church and state," his intended meaning was no doubt identical to that in the first amendment, but those words are ambiguous and have been used in our day to violate the first amendment, and we now have laws that limit or even prohibit the free exercise of religion.

Burt Prelutsky, a non-practicing politically conservative Jew, points out that the United States is a Christian country, by which he means, the dominant religion of the founders and the majority of the population of America has always been Christian, and that America's traditions and culture are predominantly Christian and have colored everything from its holidays to its music. None of these things are established by law, but by the free choice of individuals. No one is required to observe any of these traditions, but to prevent anyone from observing them is a violation of the first amendment.

Here: Proving the Enemy Right

I do not believe in God, but only a fool would say the US is is not a Christian nation.

Hank

44 posted on 04/20/2010 6:51:17 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: pissant

They’re so cute with their little heads spinning around, pea soup pouring out of their mouths.....


45 posted on 04/20/2010 7:00:02 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: ari-freedom
“the tea partiers should thank me for cutting tax cuts...”

The doofus gem of the month. He reminds the nation why liberals have ideas built on the progress of conservatives.

46 posted on 04/20/2010 7:03:35 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: griswold3
There’s a debate concerning when this country was lost. Many believe it was lost when Society removed the Ten Commandments from the ‘public square’.

I'd say it was when prayer was banned from public school.

47 posted on 04/20/2010 7:07:51 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Ol' Sparky

What prayer do you think is best for my children to say in school?


48 posted on 04/20/2010 7:10:34 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: pissant

The real America is a Christian nation.


49 posted on 04/20/2010 7:13:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: pissant

Barry Lynn is a very confused man! He wants people to call him Rev (actually no man should be called Rev, but that`s for another topic)he has no Church to Pastor, he does not believe in the Bible.


50 posted on 04/20/2010 7:17:29 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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