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Myths About Capitalism
Townhall.com ^ | April 21, 2010 | John Stossel

Posted on 04/21/2010 5:40:29 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/21/2010 5:40:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Watch out! Any good word about Medved may get you flamed on FR!


2 posted on 04/21/2010 5:52:18 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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The two most effective and most used but specious appeals by the Obama camp to their followers are purely emotional:

Furthermore, notice that Liberals always and only make emotional appeals...because they have no effective logical or rational arguments.

3 posted on 04/21/2010 5:52:37 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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"In school, we all studied a book called "The Theory of the Leisure Class," which ... indicted the leisure class and these people who were out there exploiting other people and really had nothing to do except sit on their yachts and go to their swimming pools and their vacations."

The Leisure Class exists, but it doesn't consist of working executives. It is mostly made up of people who inherited wealth from working businessmen, and to lesser extent of those who made a pile and quit working. But this second group is rare in America, as most successful entrepeneurs take the money they made selling their business and start another.

Much of the true Leisure Class spends its time sitting around complaining about how evil business and wealth is. Seldom motivates them to give up their own unearned wealth, however.

4 posted on 04/21/2010 5:54:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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“It’s a Wonderful Life” was not the best example to cite in this case. The dishonest, greedy, bad guy in the movie is Potter, the bank owner ~ in real life and even worse in the dream sequence!


5 posted on 04/21/2010 5:56:59 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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And, the truly hilarious part is that most of those who talk about or write about “evil capitalism” are actually profiting from it. Geez, are they thick as bricks or what?


6 posted on 04/21/2010 6:02:39 AM PDT by beachn4fun (“No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair.” (Patton))
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I really like this one quote from the TownHall site:

Capitalism works best in a competative environment. Liberals don't do well in a competative environment. This is why Liberals oppose capitalism.

7 posted on 04/21/2010 6:08:21 AM PDT by beachn4fun (No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair. (Patton))
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Logic is foreign to them


8 posted on 04/21/2010 6:09:40 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

And the villain who throws widowed mothers of small children into the midnight snow has been around for centuries in drama.

The difference is the amount of media that people are exposed to these days is orders of magnitude greater than the very occasional stage play of yesteryear.

So the mantra of the eeeevil company owner has become ingrained in the minds of too many people. I have rarely followed any soap operas, but a generation ago, they were the daily companions to millions of people. I doubt if there ever was a hero company president in all the years of those shows.


9 posted on 04/21/2010 6:10:17 AM PDT by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: Kaslin

It's what I call the double thank-you phenomenon. I understand why politicians and lawyers believe it: It's true in their world. But it's not true in business.

This observation is far deeper than a casual essay statement. It is a corollary of the Prisoner's Dilemma's logical ramifications, which itself is a corollary of Godel's Theorem.

In essence it says that imagination, creativity, and faith operate outside the bounds of tete-a-tete game theory. Similarly Man is made in the image of the Creator. And we do not mean here to be maudlin.

There was a post on FR the other day that mentioned "innovating our way out of recession." Same thing.

Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, etc. who have produced absolutely nothing worthwhile in their lives, are soooo far over their pseudo-intellectual heads that any intervention in society by them is destined to be a disaster. A really really good manager knows something of this.

And we do see light on FR, although even here the dark ages still infiltrate.

It could have been all different, but the horrific arrogance of Harvard, the CFR, the LEFT, killed us, in this nation. Perhaps others will emerge from the darkness.

Johnny Suntrade

10 posted on 04/21/2010 6:15:34 AM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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I have read Veblen’s Theory of the Leisure Class several times. He is right! We do have a leisure class. He was wrong about who is in that class. The leisure class are leftwing trust funders, managers of large foundations, the MSM elite, the Hollywood elite, the Kennedys, and of course Senator Kerry. I am sure FR’s could add to that list.


11 posted on 04/21/2010 6:16:19 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Kaslin

ping


12 posted on 04/21/2010 6:18:17 AM PDT by fhayek
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Logic is foreign to them

I guess Liberals are just a bunch of nutty academics who love their hypotheses so much that they don't care that they can't stand up under examination.

Seems like a form of insanity to me.

Of course, a big portion of liberals are not the true believers, but those who use them purely to gain power. I'm not sure where Obama falls out on this continuum...but I am pretty sure he is an evil SOB.

13 posted on 04/21/2010 6:20:48 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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He is also an arrogant p o s


14 posted on 04/21/2010 6:29:27 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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"What's interesting," Medved commented, "is that in the old days, Hollywood would have businesspeople who were very positive: George Bailey, the Jimmy Stewart character, is a banker in 'It's a Wonderful Life.'"

No longer. Today's movie capitalists are criminals or playboys. Apparently, Hollywood writers think it's plausible that CEOs have lots of time to sip cocktails and chase women.

Art imitates life, or is it the other way 'round?

15 posted on 04/21/2010 6:38:33 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
My college roommate built up a vast, nationwide construction business and then gave it to Christian charities. So, I guess businessmen are really evil.

I myself was talking to an employee last month, and could hear some stress in her voice. Asking what the problem was she told me that she and her husband had encountered an unexpected $500 payment to close the sale on their new home, and that they had no way to obtain that extra money. She could not even borrow it from her parents. Even though we certainly felt it in our own budget, I wired her $500 on the spot.

I guess I am an evil capitalist(?)

16 posted on 04/21/2010 6:40:01 AM PDT by The Duke
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Wat would Michael Moore be today if not for capitalism? What would Moore be if he gave away access to his movies and whatnot?

ANSWER: Skinny

17 posted on 04/21/2010 6:44:52 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (NOVEMBER-2-2010!)
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That's why I think he is demonic.

He is arrogant beyond what I have ever seen in the humans I have known (and he's done absolutely nothing to have earned it).

I don't doubt for a moment that he's mentally ill (including but not limited to psychopathic narcissism)...but there is something beyond even that.

I think he's cut a deal with the Devil.

Whether such a thing is possible or he only believes it is possible seems to be irrelevant. He appears to believe he is on a cosmic mission...and it is clearly not a mission sponsored by the God of Israel.;-)

18 posted on 04/21/2010 6:48:11 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: maica

Add public education.


19 posted on 04/21/2010 7:38:57 AM PDT by onedoug
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I like Medved even thought I disagree with a number of his positions. There are a number of people on this forum who demand that any conservative agree with their personal beliefs one hundred percent. No one can agree with anyone on one hundred percent of the issues.


20 posted on 04/21/2010 8:13:58 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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