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Future of Belgium under threat over language row
The Telegraph ^ | 4/22/2010 | Henry Samuel, Paris

Posted on 04/23/2010 1:31:36 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

"Survival" of Belgium as a unified country was called into question last night after a row between French and Dutch speakers brought the government to the verge of collapse.

The wrangle has already brought down the government four times in the past three years but the latest spat is the gravest yet and threatens to split the country into Flemish areas and French-speaking areas.

King Albert II warned politicians that the political crisis "seriously threatens" the country's role in Europe, after the Prime Minister, Yves Leterme tendered his resignation.

Mr Leterme stepped down after talks broke down over plants to give French speakers in the suburbs of Brussels special voting powers which the Flemish parties want to see denied.

The failure to reach a deal led the Flemish liberal party, Open VLD, to pull out of the five-party ruling coalition and just hours later Mr Leterme resigned. King Albert has delayed a decision on whether to accept the resignation.

Dutch speakers make up 60 percent of the population in Belgium, where only the capital Brussels is officially bilingual. Prosperous Dutch-speaking Flanders in the north wants greater autonomy, whereas poorer, French-speaking Wallonia in the south argues enough powers have been devolved.

The Brussels-Hal-Vilvorde districts at the centre of the row have acted as a focal point for these deep-seated linguistic tensions, as they are Flemish-run but with a sizeable French-speaking community.

Some Wallon politicians saw the latest crisis as a Flemish plot to break up Belgium.

"There was no other choice but for the government to resign," said Didier Reynders, the finance minister.

Yesterday, Olivier Maingain, a francophone leader, promised that the collapse of the coalition "won't win Flanders what it really wants, separation and the end of the country".

However, Pierre Vercauteren, a political analyst at the University of

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belgium; country; dutch; flemish; french; future; language; row; threat; unified; united
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To: bruinbirdman
Too bad Charles De Gaulle is no longer around--he could visit Brussels and proclaim "Vive la Wallonie libre!"

I don't know if you can really call the Walloons' language "French"--they say octante rather than quatre-vingt for "80." For "90" they say nonante instead of quatre-vingt-dix. How can that be considered French?

21 posted on 04/23/2010 6:28:11 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Don’t the Swiss French do the same? Mais, alors, je suis d’accord avec vous.


22 posted on 04/23/2010 6:29:55 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Yes, according to my Harrap’s French dictionary, the French-speaking Swiss do too.


23 posted on 04/23/2010 8:24:16 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: bruinbirdman
Why don't they just all speak Belgian?
/0bama
24 posted on 04/23/2010 8:30:32 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: ops33

You are very welcome for the information.

The Letzeburgesch dialect is quite far removed from high German, however, and often Germans cannot understand it at all. However, the Germans living around Bitburg, just north of Trier in the western part of the Rheinland do understand it and still speak it in their homes. In fact, prior to 1815, the District of Bitburg belonged to the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg!

I have a genealogy friend with 100% Luxembourg ancestry, whose ancestors came to central Minnesota beteween about 1860-1870. The older generation still speaks Letzeburgesh among themselves. My friend’s mother went on a trip to Germany,and when she returned, she told her daughter, “I could not understand most of the Germans at all, until I came to Trier where I could speak my “German” and they understood me.”


25 posted on 04/24/2010 2:36:16 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: bruinbirdman

Monty Python - Derogatory terms for Belgians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e-3dfQK7w4


26 posted on 04/24/2010 2:43:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Gumdrop

Very interesting. We spent 8 years in Germany, 4 at Zweibrucken AB, and 4 in Berlin. I knew there were many dialects of German but to tell the truth, my German was so poor it was hard to distinguish between them. I do remember that the Berliners talked very fast.


27 posted on 04/25/2010 6:24:22 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: bruinbirdman

The Belgian government just collapsed.

http://www.langlophone.com/


28 posted on 04/26/2010 9:38:47 AM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: bruinbirdman

The only thing that united Belgians in the past was their Catholicism. As the country become secularlized, ethnic/linguistic divisions rose to the fore.


29 posted on 04/26/2010 9:41:09 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: rdl6989
"The Belgian government just collapsed."

The article you link to is dated April 22.

Note that this article above is also dated April 22 and states in the second paragraph:

"King Albert II warned politicians that the political crisis "seriously threatens" the country's role in Europe, after the Prime Minister, Yves Leterme tendered his resignation."

yitbos

30 posted on 04/26/2010 10:58:13 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman

Doh! I had just seen it on twitter as "breaking news" and found this but didn't see the date.

31 posted on 04/26/2010 11:02:40 AM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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