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"Service to country doesn’t mean a free pass on lousy foreign policy...and speeches... Don’t get me going on Joe Sestak...."

I never said that. I could give you a few examples of people who served in the military their whole lives who are/were idiots (Wesley Clarke, John Murtha). However, it is for concrete reasons that I can give you on these two. I'm ashamed to admit that John Murtha was a fellow Marine.

Can anyone here name me one statement or act that General Jones has done that is against this countries interests? Other than trying to read something into a stupid joke that was never intended? Don't you see the mental loops people on this thread are going through to try to rip on General Jones and by extension (in their minds at least) rip on Obama? In the process, they are casting aspersions on a good man. What is a man but the sum of his deeds? I merely pointed out the sum of his deeds to everyone, that's all.

Gotcha! And you said that well (my opinion) but the old adage, “Judge a person by the company they keep...” comes to mind and unfortunately in this incidence, the questionable company is that which Gen Jones chose to be in, not BHO...

In the perilous time America & the world finds themselves, I can only look back at the events and public figures in the time leading up to WWII. Just remember the gloriously patriotic military record of France's General Petain or that Norway's Quisling was their Minister of Defense and then remember their ultimate infamy.

While no US military leader has, to this point, behaved in such a way to invite that comparison - Americans should NOT drop their guard and believe that they too can not be sold out to their enemies by men with gloriously patriotic military records or resumes.

But as for the joke of General Jones, along the same line let me ask the question this way:

What would you think of one of FDR's Generals, if during the 1930s, while giving a speech to an audience including Nazis, he told a joke about a Nazi wandering out of a desert who "arrives at a store run by a Jew and asks for water" and is not given water but is instead bounced back and forth between two Jewish businessman? Do you think the Nazis would merely consider those Jews humorously "clever?" Do you think many Muslims do not see Jews as Nazis did?

He works for Obama.

What else do you need?

Either he doesn’t know what he is doing, or if he knows, it’s ok by him.

Bad, no matter which one it is.

Against this country’s interest IN SPADES.

What he did in his military career before that, is his history and no one can change it.

But he crossed a horrible, horrible line. And what he’s doing now is a whole different thing.