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Ron Paul: Don't call Obama a Socialist
www.thedailycrux.com ^ | April 27, 2010 | Rep. Ron Paul

Posted on 04/27/2010 8:45:46 AM PDT by Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

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To: Secret Agent Man

LOL. You and I posted similar thoughts on communism and fascism being effectively the same thing about two minutes apart. You sir, are an inspired man. ;-)


41 posted on 04/27/2010 10:06:02 AM PDT by old republic
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba
Socialism is a system where the government directly owns and manages businesses.

= de jure socialism

Corporatism is a system where businesses are nominally in private hands, but are in fact controlled by the government.

= de facto socialism = fascism

42 posted on 04/27/2010 10:07:59 AM PDT by mjp (pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, independence, limited government, capitalism})
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To: CodeToad

Agreed! Kinda like figuring out how many angels can fit on a pin.


43 posted on 04/27/2010 10:13:52 AM PDT by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: reagan_fanatic; ModelBreaker
The correct term is fascist.

Corporatist is an old word for fascists that dropped out of use around the 1930s or so. It seems to me that once everyone knew that corporatism was bad and would never accept its totalitarianism, the corporatists changed their name to fascism and said look we're not corporatists, we're fascists. If you change the terminology by creating new words, or redefine old words with insidious new meanings, you can really confuse people which causes disunity amongst the opposition Communists/socialists play this same game too by calling themselves "progressives". Albeit, corporatism, is fascism, is tyranny, and we don't want none of that trash.

44 posted on 04/27/2010 10:15:54 AM PDT by old republic
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To: bigbob

Read your post quickly and thought you wrote about Obama: “...he just resorts to buggery.”

Once I realized my error, upon reflection, both are correct.


45 posted on 04/27/2010 10:43:33 AM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba
Emperor bammy is a rabid islamo-marxist, to call him socialist is like calling an acetylene torch flame slightly warm to the touch.
46 posted on 04/27/2010 10:56:11 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

I think Mark Levin has it right. Obama is a statist which is a more general term than socialist, fascist, communist or the like. In fact, all are types of statist. The important thing to keep in mind is that the differences among socialism, fascism, communism, etc. are not nearly so relevant as the differences between all of them and capitalism, the chief of which, in my mind, is the degree of government control. Capitalism involves far less government control. Unfortunately, how we characterize Obama tends not to be important because the majority a U.S citizens has no idea what any of them mean to them. Notice how the left never refers to the right as capitalists. Instead, they call us intolerant, uncharitable, unable to accept change, wealthy, etc., all terms with negative connotations that the average voter can relate to. Taking a page from their book, I prefer to call the statists suppressors, taxers and spenders, dictators, destroyers of democracy, property confiscators, etc. We must be careful not to call them things like dishonest, corrupt, power hungry and other names because these are traits not unique to statists; they exist everywhere.


47 posted on 04/27/2010 1:09:37 PM PDT by ritpg
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