The Real Story of the Oklahoma City Bombing

Accuracy in Media ^ | April 27, 2010 | Roger Aronoff

[ICCtheWay]

Whether one believes this Arab tie-in account or not... the other obvious reason McVeigh would have blown up up the OKC Fed Building was in direct retaliation for the outrageous actions of the U.S. Government in Waco - not born from a generalized hatred of the government by right wingers. After all it was done on the Waco anniversary... And McVeigh - if he is to be believed said as much... A no brainer to me...

[ASA Vet]

She hasn’t posted since June 12, 2006.

[RaceBannon]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1786859657119150754

Jayna Davis interview on Paul Schiffer

[RaceBannon]

you left out WTC I, 1993

[norraad]

Ok, but how did he make such beautiful clean and perfect cuts on those interior I beams?

[MontaniSemperLiberi]

And we’ve had every chance to collect evidence from inside of Iraq and none has turned up.

[Marty62]

Actually it worked for them, you had the Dumocrat Admin running around claiming Americans were insane militias plying with fertilizer.

It worked until 9-11.

Now they are back to the old playbook. Dumocrats think American Citizens are terrorist not the ones that state their terrorism plans from a cave in the wilderness.

[Elsiejay]

I’ll second that. Bought and read her book not long after its publication, and remain convinced that her thesis is one whose consequences Bubba Clinton did not want to face.
I was startled when the search for the black-haired, swarthy complected “Third Terrorist” was abruptly terminated after about two days, and stories of those scary white supremacists suddenly and seemingly arbitrarily imposed on the national consciousness and conversation by no less a personage than our Chief Executive. That man was seen, his presence on the scene reported. Then the screen went blank!!

[ICCtheWay]

How would anyone make such cuts with a truck explosion from the street...? What does that have to do with Arabs being involved?

Are you talking about some conspiracy at the World Trade Center or in the OKC Bombing?

[ICCtheWay]

Another response to your response... My original comments were about motive - not method...

I feel quite strongly that McVeigh’s motive was revenge - for the Waco tragic fiasco - as retaliation for the over the top military type response to capture a two bit religious nut...

Notice one thing about the actions of the Feds in the past ten-twelve years... with the exception of the nutty over done police state actions against the Mormon fundamentalist sect in Texas -— the Federal Law Enforcement agencies have steered clear of Waco type craziness...

[TXnMA]

"Ok, but how did he make such beautiful clean and perfect cuts on those interior I beams?"

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The "cuts" were not on so-called "interior 'I' beams". The most obvious "cuts" were in the 3' thick, 5' tall and 200' long "header" or "spandrel" beam that spanned the entire exterior of the north side of the MB -- at the third floor level.

At three points on that beam (at 40-foot intervals, aligned with the main external columns) that beam was sliced neatly in two, with the concrete completely pulverized and missing and with a smooth, granular fracture termination -- leaving ~22 inch gaps. And the intervening sections of that beam were totally unmarred by damage.

In the following graphic,

the concrete in the red-colored sections was totally missing - leaving only clean rebar. The sole exception is the cross-hatched half-span of the header on the western (right) end, which broke in mid-span in classic tension fracture (from overhead loading) apparently after support was lost on the eastern (left) end.

Absent evidence of criminal material deficiencies in those areas, no individual or organization has ever supplied even a theory as to how an air blast -- of any magnitude could have caused such selective damage. Certainly no one has ever explained how air blast from a ANFO/ANNM charge in a truck parked at the indicated crater site could have produced those results.

(Yes, before you ask, I have discussed this at length with General Ben Partin.)

[TXnMA]

Courtesy ping to #32...

(And, yes, Jayna and I have, on occasion, communicated...)

FReepmail if you wish...

[justa-hairyape]

the Federal Law Enforcement agencies have steered clear of Waco type craziness...

Not what we are seeing out here in what used to be the fastest growing county in the US. They just hit a big motorcycle gang in Hemet and also a Big Mexican Street Gang in Ontario. And then we had that recent massive raid on that small militia group in the mid-west. They appear to be selectively targeting those deemed to be significant threats during a potential economic collapse. What McVeighs personal motivations were are not relevant to determining who he worked with or who potentially gave him material aid. This is a major issue since we have so many John Doe #2 eye witness testimonials.

[ICCtheWay]

Big Mexican Street Gang in Ontario ... are you speaking of the United States? If not - I could give a damn.

As I said in other words — nothing like Waco has happened since ... I challenge you to bring a U.S. example - except the Mormon fundamentalist episode I mention...

Seems so many posters are long on Conspiracy and short on real evidence ... just vague connectedness...

[justa-hairyape]

Ontario California.

[norraad]

With the generals help, it shouldn't be too hard to track down who among the relatively small group of specialists have been employed by Sneakyman Inc. to bring down large buildings and blame someone else?

Might'n that be a good start in the right direction, considering all the time and energy spent wontonly wonderin' in the wrong direction all these years?

[TXnMA]

My agreement was to address WHAT happened, HOW it happened, and, as appropriate, WHEN it happened.

I specifically left addressing the WHO? and WHY? to others. In that regard, Jayna, IMHO, is on the right track for filling in the gaps in our knowledge.

If you have not (as I have) dedicated several years working with other folks also dedicated to finding the answers, I'd be very careful about tossing around terms like, "wontonly wonderin' in the wrong direction"... Especially so if you have not gone head-to-head with the Federal Bureau of Misdirection...

[TXnMA]

Have you seen this article about Jayna?