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IT'S ILLEGAL TO BE ILLEGAL
boblonsberry.com ^ | 04/28/10 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 04/28/2010 5:52:11 AM PDT by shortstop

It should be illegal to be illegal.

Isn't that, after all, what "illegal" means?

I don't understand the fuss over Arizona. A state, long plagued by the failure of the federal government to enforce immigration laws, has taken a step to protect itself.It has declared being an illegal immigrant a misdemeanor, an act of trespass, under state law. And it has empowered its police, in the course of their contacts with people, to inquire about and verify immigrant status.

And the fit has hit the shan.The president has condemned it, Al Sharpton is going to protest it, marchers have attacked police over it, talking heads have cursed it, and Arizonans have cheered it.

In fact, 70 percent of the people in Arizona agree with the legislation. Interestingly, the Census says that 30 percent of the people in Arizona are Latinos. Across the country, 60 percent of the people agree with Arizona's new law.

And yet with unwavering orthodoxy, the commisars of American political correctness have denounced the law, the state and the people. It is as if from the perspective of the studios of New York, the people of Arizona are seen as some Neanderthal subspecies about to form into chapters of the Ku Klux Klan. No credence is given to the Arizona position, no consideration of the damage done that state is taken into account, no balance is given to the story.

The Arizonans are wrong, the illegals are right, it's all about racism and xenophobia. Anybody who doesn't agree with the president and the evening news is a racist.

Which is all a bunch of crap.

If somebody breaks into your house, do you make them a sandwich and give them the keys to the car? Do they, by virture of climbing in the window, earn the right to a place on your couch and at your table?

Of course not.

If somebody breaks into your house, you put your arse-kicking boots on and you chase them out of your home and off your property. You protect what is yours.

It seems like the same thing ought to apply to your country.

Some 20 million people have broken into our country. Against our law, contrary to our national interest, at great hurt to our society.

And if you say anything about it you are a racist and the president is going to send the Justice Department after you.

Well, that's ridiculous.

The law must have meaning, because when it doesn't, we are the ones who lose. Abraham Lincoln said that it was the law that makes us free, that our system of representative government requires all citizens to uphold the law which they through their elected representatives have had a hand in creating and affirming. When we ignore law, when we turn against the will of the people it represents, we turn lose a capricious tyranny that one day may come back to haunt us all.

And for three presidential administrations now, we have been ignoring the borders and laws of this country.

Few places have felt the pain of that approach more than Arizona. Many of its hospitals and schools are gutted, its social welfare budget is busted, its urban streets are rife with gang violence, its rural border areas are a no-man's land where drugs cartels and human smugglers operate with impunity. The social collapse of northern Mexico is seeping over the border and is suffocating southern Arizona.

And Arizona has decided to do something about it.After years of pleading with the federal government, Arizona has decided to take a stand.

When police have contact with people, and those people have characteristics common to illegal aliens -- can't speak English, no drivers license, no insurance or registration, no identification -- the police will be allowed to ask their status and verify it. Does that mean they start pulling over brown people, like the president and the activists say? Absolutely not. Does it mean the police are going to stop looking the other way, absolutely so.

Is this discrimination?

No.

Will this make Arizona an inhospitable place for illegal aliens?

Hopefully.How would a challenged person prove their status? By showing either a visa or a drivers license -- or even a welfare card. There's no need to carry "papers," and even the visa for foreign guests is already required by federal law to be carried at all times. Of course, federal law also requires that illegal aliens stay on the other side of the border.

If a person is found to be in the country illegally, what happens? They are taken into custody, and they face a state misdemeanor charge which will probably most times be dismissed when they are turned over to federal immigration custody. What happens if Barack Obama orders federal officials not to accept the custody of the illegal aliens? Well, we'll find out when such a refused alien is released and subsequently commits some heinous crime.

This isn't discrimination, this isn't racism, this is common sense.It is self-defense.This is the the state of Arizona doing what the federal government lacks the stones to do.

Arizona is simply saying that it's illegal to be illegal.


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
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Mark Levin pointed out on his radio program yesterday, just try being in Mexico without your passport and/or visa and you'll be in deep trouble or jail or worse.
1 posted on 04/28/2010 5:52:11 AM PDT by shortstop
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To: Liz; AuntB

PING


2 posted on 04/28/2010 5:53:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: shortstop

Mark Levin pointed out on his radio program yesterday, just try being in Mexico without your passport and/or visa and you’ll be in deep trouble or jail or worse.


The reason is that you are a source of revenue. You have something and they can get it. Mexicans coming here have nothing and nothing to lose.


3 posted on 04/28/2010 5:56:56 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: shortstop

“Legalize Illegality” actually sounds like the perfect tag line for today’s Democrat Party


4 posted on 04/28/2010 6:04:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: PeterPrinciple

Just what we need, destitute, desperate people who WILL NOT/CANNOT assimilate...AND upon whom NO demands will EVER be made, but who consume just as if they contribute like REAL citizens and taxpayers...

ENOUGH!!!!


5 posted on 04/28/2010 6:05:50 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
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To: shortstop

Arizona


6 posted on 04/28/2010 6:10:59 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing up against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future will belong to the tyrants.)
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To: shortstop
Go to www.townhall.com and read Michele Malkins article on illegals in Mexico. We have a foreign President calling us terrorist and racist for enforcing our laws and Mexico's laws are 10 times more egregious and our Justice Department is guilty of betraying America by not enforcing what is Federal Law. Wake up America Obama is a Dictator!
7 posted on 04/28/2010 6:11:05 AM PDT by RocketRoland
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To: shortstop

#1,,or Canada for that matter. Looks like Ariz. has done us all a favor considering all the whineing going on by various lawmakers, who don’t seem to know it’s Federal law already,,one of those laws they voted on without bothering to read the thing before voting.


8 posted on 04/28/2010 6:13:09 AM PDT by Waco (Kalifonia don't need no stenkin oil and no stenkin revenues)
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To: RocketRoland
Read this by one of the principal drafters of the AZ bill, someone I personally know and admire.

KOBACH: Arizona acts as Washington dithers

9 posted on 04/28/2010 6:13:50 AM PDT by kabar
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To: shortstop

“If somebody breaks into your house, you put your arse-kicking boots on and you chase them out of your home and off your property. You protect what is yours.”

Another issue, Sen. Dodd is saying that Wall Street broke into our House 17 Years ago and we still haven’t changed the Locks. The Libs can use both sides of any point to screw us. Keep the pressure on Arizona.


10 posted on 04/28/2010 6:14:27 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: shortstop

“If somebody breaks into your house, you put your arse-kicking boots on and you chase them out of your home and off your property. You protect what is yours.”

Another issue, Sen. Dodd is saying that Wall Street broke into our House 17 Years ago and we still haven’t changed the Locks. The Libs can use both sides of any point to screw us. Keep the pressure on Arizona.


11 posted on 04/28/2010 6:17:45 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: mortal19440

Sorry about the double hit.


12 posted on 04/28/2010 6:18:25 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: FrankR
How can people with NO STANDING vote in the U.S. when citizens who challenge “O’s” eligibility to be President get the bum's rush because THEY have 'NO STANDING'??????
13 posted on 04/28/2010 6:25:18 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
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"...just try being in Mexico without your passport and/or visa and you'll be in deep trouble or jail or worse. "

Back in the 70's a friend of mine who was a registered pharmacist, with about 10 years experience, decided he wanted to go back to school and become a doctor.

He applied to several medical schools here in the USA, and could not get in to any of them. He wound up getting accepted in Guadalajara, Mexico (sp?).

However, to go to school there, he could not work in Mexico, nor could his wife, as - in their words - "it takes away from their economy" - AND, in order to go there and learn medicine, he had to learn SPANISH. I could not fathom having to learn medicine and Spanish at the same time.

But, he made it through and is now a successful doctor here in Georgia.

Because of the 'no work' rule for foreigners down there, he had to sell his home and all his belonging, plus borrow money from private sources to be able to attend the school in Mexico.

Contrast then, to now, when we're accomdating them with jobs, Spanish translations, housing, food, and medical care when - one day - they decide to just sashay across the border and live in the USA.

Other countries have similar laws - a company I used to work for was establishing offices in Australia and I voluteered to go there for a year or two and work...turned down because if Australia has people qualified to do a job, they cannot give the job to a foreigner. The only 'foreigner' allowed would be the manager, which I was not.

But, the good ol' USA brings them in and gives them the baby and the bathwater. I reminds be of Halloween...if you hand out the trick or treat candy, it will probably last through the night...but if you are lazy, and just put a big basket of candy on the porch, it will be gone in record time, and they will be ringing your doorbell for more. I think that is a good parallel to the USA and illegal immigrants.
14 posted on 04/28/2010 6:31:39 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing up against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future will belong to the tyrants.)
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To: FrankR
Because of Mexico's 'no work' rule for foreigners, Mexican medical student from America had to sell his home his belonging, and borrow money to be able to attend school in Mexico. ........ yet, we accomdate illegals with jobs, Spanish translations, housing, food, and medical care when they decide to sashay across the border and live in the USA.

LET'S SEE IF WE GOT THIS RIGHT.

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

IF YOU CROSS THE US BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET:

* A JOB,

* A DRIVER'S LICENSE,

* SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,

* WELFARE,

* FOOD STAMPS,

* CREDIT CARDS,

* SUBSIDIZED RENT

* SUBSIDIZED LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,

* FREE EDUCATION,

* FREE HEALTH CARE,

* A RIDE ON THE U.S. GRAVY WITH SEVERAL IDENTITIES,

* A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON,

* BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE,

* THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT,

* AND THE U.S. POLITICAL/LEGAL SYSTEM AT YOUR DISPOSAL.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION.

15 posted on 04/28/2010 6:53:09 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: FrankR

Your point is excellent and bears repeating - The intent to leave America’s borders essentially unprotected is not limited to the Democrat Socialists, but is the position of most politicians within the D.C. bubble.


16 posted on 04/28/2010 6:58:42 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: Tennessee Nana; Liz; shortstop

Note from Mike Cutler, former INS agent.

As you may know, this past weekend, I was a guest on Fox and Friends and on MSNBC to debate Arizona’s new immigration laws that require aliens in that state to carry proof of their immigration status.

I am going to start out by providing you with a copy of the statutory requirement that addresses aliens and proof of alien registration:

***********Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times
carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate
of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to
him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails
to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of
a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined
not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or
both.*************

I want you to take a moment and give some serious thought to the paragraph above.

The point to remember is that while citizens of our nation have an absolute right to enter into the United States and remain in the United States, aliens do not. This is why I have come to try to explain the issue of illegal immigration by noting, on many occasions, that the difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien is comparable to the difference between a houseguest and a burglar.

Throughout the world, nations make clear distinctions between citizens and non-citizens (aliens). According to the Immigration and Nationality Act, that body of all inclusive laws that pertain to the entry and presence of foreign nationals (aliens) in our country, the term “Alien” simply means “Any person who is not a citizen or national of the United States.

There is certainly nothing derogatory or insulting about that definition. The term alien is simply a legal term that is as old as the Constitution of the United States and it also parallels terminology and concepts employed by every other country on our planet to draw a distinction between those people who are present in a country who are citizens of that country and those who are not.

The importance of citizenship is taken extremely seriously in every country on the face of the earth and, in fact, in many ways, other countries are far more concerned about the distinction between aliens and citizens.

Countries certainly have the right, indeed the imperative of denying the entry of an alien into its territory and also retain the right to remove aliens from their territory if those aliens are found to have engaged in activities that are contrary to the best interests of that nation.


17 posted on 04/28/2010 7:02:02 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more ‘share the wealth’ socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: shortstop

Libs have their own definition of the term ‘illegal’, although it changes with the prevailing Democrat political winds.

I had the opportunity to hear D.A. King speak on the topic of illegal aliens and the cost to this country. His URL http://www.thedustininmansociety.org/index.html Although, the Dustin Inman Society has its focus on Georgia the site has a wealth of information pertinent to all.


18 posted on 04/28/2010 7:08:08 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: shortstop
You know what? Let's stop the charade. We all know where this is heading. Let's just admit it.

The Constitution is un-Constitutional.

19 posted on 04/28/2010 7:09:18 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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