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Now hang in with me here ... there is a good idea in this piece whic relates to the current situation in Arizona.

If we use lowering population as our "discharging infrastructure" as means to reduce our "population-driven demands on natural resources".

And if must be done by ONE MEANS OR ANOTHER ... then it by logic we can morally eliminate population in the USA by deportation (not to mention other draconian means, which, according to global warmists, the means justify the ends).

I think we've just solved the "population-driven" emmissions problem and the illegal immigration problem in the USA with one stone!

What do you think?

1 posted on 05/01/2010 8:20:12 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

death panels are making more and more sense every day ...

eugenics was a NAZI goal, they got the idea from USA progressives.


2 posted on 05/01/2010 8:26:52 AM PDT by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: Lorianne
One environmentally and socially equitable approach to cap-and-trade would be to base the discharge allocations on that fraction of the atmosphere that a country’s land mass supports.

Was this article penned by Putin?

3 posted on 05/01/2010 8:27:08 AM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: Lorianne
Several years ago the Sierra Club experienced a major internal and acrimonious debate about whether the organization should take a stand on U.S. immigration policy or adhere to the existing policy of improving conditions in foreign countries to reduce migration pressures. The proponents issued a flyer asking, “What does Population have to do with the Environment?” It answers: “Everything.” They went on to state, “A rapidly growing population means more polluting coal burned to generate electricity, more imported oil, more forests clear-cut to provide construction materials, more farms, wetlands, and natural landscaped developed into endless sprawling subdivisions, roads, and strip malls. Every club objective is frustrated by population spiraling out of control.” Although the initiative failed due to the objections of a major benefactor, there is a wellspring of support in the environmental community to stem population growth. Rarely has any politician of any stripe connected our immigration policies to environmental policies.

Our pro-population growth immigration policies will account for about three-quarters of the projected increase of 135 million in our population over the next 40 years. This is the equivalent of adding approximately the combined populations of the UK and Germany. How does population growth impact our energy needs? According to Population-Environment Balance (PEB), 93 percent of the U.S. increase in energy use since 1970 can be attributed to population growth. In 1970 the US consumed 14.7 million barrels of oil a day compared to approximately 22 million barrels today with about 70% of the total now being imported. The Democrats are preaching conservation and Green technology, but fail to mention increased demand due to immigration-fueled population growth. We will have to run just to stand still in terms of meeting our future energy needs. If we were to reduce our annual immigration to 300,000 from the current 1.2 million, by 2060 the population would be 80 million less than the projected 468 million. How much energy would that save?

Bringing third worlders to the US actually increases energy usage since they would use less energy per capita if they remained in the Third World.

5 posted on 05/01/2010 8:28:22 AM PDT by kabar
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"In the end, we must all recognize that we have an obligation to share this earth with the other living things, an obligation that requires a reduction, by one means or another, in our population-driven demands on its natural resources. Bringing about this recognition is the task of civic education in the broadest sense."

zero is probably conducting ongoing negotiations to determine whom survives all the neutron bombs.

Remember, all these evil and ugly men have equally evil and ugly women ... for the sake of global beauty ... THEY MUST BE STOPPED !!!

6 posted on 05/01/2010 8:28:45 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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Think how the environment could be improved if only libs everywhere would just commit mass suicide! They should do it...for Gaia.


7 posted on 05/01/2010 8:34:09 AM PDT by Flag_This (ACORN delenda est)
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the outlook for both humans and nature remains bleak

Go away, you snivelling dweeb. I'm feeling perfectly chirpy about humans (at least my family and neighbors) and nature (at least the little patch I'm gardening). Have a margarita and drive to the beach house in your mind ... zero emissions!

9 posted on 05/01/2010 8:36:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick (There's a perfectly good island somewhere.)
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Well, NYT, let’s decrease immigration from countries that have a smaller ‘carbon footprint’ than our own. Surely when these people come to the US their individual contributions to atmospheric carbon dioxide will increase, so we should avoid that. Right?


11 posted on 05/01/2010 8:38:39 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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The ZPG cult could fit into a high school gymnasium for its get together, and it would be whiter than the KKK. Every pronouncement from them stipulates that only whites should curb their procreation because to do otherwise would invoke charges of “racism” and “imperialism” from their leftist cohorts. In other words they are just another joke of the left.


14 posted on 05/01/2010 8:55:05 AM PDT by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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Overpopulation and Climate Change
Who wrote this - the DoubleMYTH twins?

15 posted on 05/01/2010 8:56:42 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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“Overpopulation and Climate Change” - - -

- - - and the Tooth Fairy and evolution and reincarnation and big oak trees and boiling cauldrons and rain dances (remember those?) - - - phfooeey!


19 posted on 05/01/2010 9:19:12 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: Lorianne

If they are truly worried about population of the earth, they need to try NOT paying them to be unemployed and using their free time to screw.


20 posted on 05/01/2010 9:28:12 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Lorianne

Yes, Certainly - Illegal Immigration (an extra 15-20 million people) raises the US’ Carbon Footprint. The only environmentally sound answer is to deport all of the illegal immigrants!


22 posted on 05/01/2010 10:12:46 AM PDT by OldGuard (Conservatives - Saving the planet since 1860)
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If we just get rid of all the libs that will solve the population problem... :)


24 posted on 05/01/2010 10:33:31 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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You know, Prince Phillip once said something like “If I could be reincarnated, I would come back to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
What a jerk...


27 posted on 05/01/2010 10:51:19 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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“... outlook for both humans and nature remains bleak.”

The only thing that has a “bleak outlook” is the NY Times.


28 posted on 05/01/2010 11:00:27 AM PDT by CyberAnt
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Of course, the really funny sad thing is that it has been shown all over the world in just about every culture that western-style prosperity lowers population growth. Of course liberals can't have that. Gotta keep them yellow and brown folk in their place.

31 posted on 05/01/2010 2:23:00 PM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: Lorianne; Nipfan; Defendingliberty; 4horses+amule; Nervous Tick; Amagi; Beowulf; Tunehead54; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

32 posted on 05/01/2010 2:23:37 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Let his days be few; and let another take his office. " - Psalm 109:8)
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