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To: george76

I would support raising the retirement age, along with a modest trim in Social Security benefits, and I am on SS myself. I also think that we need to give younger people a way to opt out if they want, but only if they have another guaranteed alternative.

We have to address this here in the US if for no other reason that people are living so much longer than when the system was put into place. If we are going to hang on to Social Security, and I see no possible way it is going to stop any time soon, then we also need to raise the wage cap on deductions along with a number of other real reforms.

Yes, I am aware of how unpopular these ideas are, but we have been battling over this same issue for decades and have accomplished little in real reform. Social Security is going to be here to stay for some time yet, so we have to consider real reforms, and that includes cuts to current recipients no matter how painful. Everyone is taking multiple financial hits, and nobody is immune.

One of the only people who has shown any guts on this matter in my view has been Marco Rubio, and he is really drawing some clear distinctions between him and Charlie Crist over this very issue. Rubio seems to be well insulated from that proverbial third rail...


6 posted on 05/02/2010 9:19:41 PM PDT by Bean Counter (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office -- Aesop)
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To: Bean Counter
How about, instead of raising the age - already 67 - we stop letting the SS money be spent everywhere else?

Why are druggies, alcoholics and ‘bi-polars’, for example, lounging around in their 20-30-40’s, perfectly able bodied, living off money and free medical that comes out of our the social security money we paid into all our lives?

If the gov’t wants to take care of these people, year after year, with no incentive to get off it, then let it be from another fund. The number of these people, who have paid little to no money into SS has mushroomed in the past 20 years. Indeed, they don't have anything taken out of their monthly ‘payment’ for medicare and they pay no deductible or co-pay and they get their office visits free and free counseling - all things those of us who paid in from age 15, don't get.

Don't buy into the hype that people on social sec are getting ‘free lunch’ - as bill clinton once said ‘ and that we should work longer and get less.

Let's just stop the embezzlement from social security.

13 posted on 05/02/2010 9:45:18 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Bean Counter
I would support raising the retirement age, along with a modest trim in Social Security benefits, and I am on SS myself. I also think that we need to give younger people a way to opt out if they want, but only if they have another guaranteed alternative.

Outstanding. I'm on it and say the same.

The sixty-two yr. old option is absurd.

But in parallel the healthcare thing should never never never have been passed. The young should still acquire it through industry competition, while the SS set could still get their precious medicare.

It's like the perspective and the values of the LEFT are entirely corrupted.

25 posted on 05/03/2010 5:24:56 AM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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