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Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school
AnnArbor.com ^ | May 4, 2010 | David Jesse

Posted on 05/04/2010 6:24:57 AM PDT by Darren McCarty

An Ann Arbor elementary school principal used a letter home to parents tonight to defend a field trip for black students as part of his school’s efforts to close the achievement gap between white and black students.

Dicken Elementary School Principal Mike Madison wrote the letter to parents following several days of controversy at the school after a field trip last week in which black students got to hear a rocket scientist.

“In hindsight, this field trip could have been approached and arranged in a better way," Madison wrote. "But as I reflect upon the look of excitement, enthusiasm and energy that I saw in these children’s eyes as they stood in the presence of a renowned African American rocket scientist in a very successful position, it gave the kids an opportunity to see this type of achievement is possible for even them.

“It was not a wasted venture for I know one day they might want to aspire to be the first astronaut or scientist standing on the Planet Mars.

“I also think it’s important that you know that I have talked to the children who did not go on the field trip, and I think they have a better understanding of the purpose of the AA Lunch Bunch now, as I hope you do. I’m sorry if any kids were upset by the field trip or my discussion afterwards with them, and I have let them know that.

“The intent of our field trip was not to segregate or exclude students as has been reported, but rather to address the societal issues, roadblocks and challenges that our African American children will face as they pursue a successful academic education here in our community.”

(Excerpt) Read more at annarbor.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: annarbor; racism; schools; segregation
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This is a public school, not a private school. This is a direct violation of the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative. If there is an achievement gap, you work on it by building black students up, not by excluding other students. This field trip was open to 19% of the students, and the sole criteria was skin color.
1 posted on 05/04/2010 6:24:58 AM PDT by Darren McCarty
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To: Darren McCarty

“The intent of our field trip was not to segregate or exclude students”

which is exactly what these idiots did


2 posted on 05/04/2010 6:26:21 AM PDT by silverleaf (Karl Marx was not one of the founding fathers ....)
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To: Darren McCarty

Nothing but racism.


3 posted on 05/04/2010 6:27:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Darren McCarty
Field trip for black students...

As soon as you make choices based on race, that's racist.

“The intent of our field trip was not to segregate or exclude students...

Maybe, maybe not, but that was the method, and that is racist. It is long past time the left stops throwing around the "racist" label as a political means, so we can get back to identifying that which is truly racist: basing decisions on race.

4 posted on 05/04/2010 6:28:00 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Darren McCarty

Too stupid to think that white children would have benefited from hearing a black scientist speak?

This is madness.


5 posted on 05/04/2010 6:28:41 AM PDT by Carley (WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: Darren McCarty
...this type of achievement is possible for even them.

The words of their OWN school principal. Without a doubt, that is the most racist statement I have heard, read or seen so far this year.

6 posted on 05/04/2010 6:28:45 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Darren McCarty

That’s a weird full-circle — back to segregation!


7 posted on 05/04/2010 6:29:09 AM PDT by hemogoblin (Obama - The Potentate of Parasites)
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To: Darren McCarty

All parties responsible for this irresponsibility should be fired immediately

Public edcuation will continue to fail as long as racist idiots continue to be in charge. Only terminations will change that so the message gets thru loud and clear.


8 posted on 05/04/2010 6:29:33 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Darren McCarty

“close the achievement gap between white and black students.’

More ‘diversity’ crap.


9 posted on 05/04/2010 6:29:40 AM PDT by Leg Olam
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To: Darren McCarty

““In hindsight, this field trip could have been approached and arranged in a better way,” Madison wrote. “But as I reflect upon the look of excitement, enthusiasm and energy that I saw in these children’s eyes as they stood in the presence of a renowned African American rocket scientist in a very successful position, it gave the kids an opportunity to see this type of achievement is possible for even them.”

Typical LIBTARD Racism, here. This guy should be fired and then severely beaten.


10 posted on 05/04/2010 6:29:48 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Darren McCarty
I'll confess to mixed opinions here ...

I agree the selection of students AND subject matter was primarily skin color, yet .. the intent was (as stated) to show black kids THEY could achieve high positions also.

If white kids had gone on the trip as well, the effect of targetting (failing/below average?) black kids would have been lost ... at the least, diluted.


Personally, I don't see why this became controversial in the first place.

11 posted on 05/04/2010 6:29:50 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Darren McCarty

Just for the heck of it, someone at that school needs to starta “WA Lunch Bunch” and see how well it goes over...

;-)


12 posted on 05/04/2010 6:30:02 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS

I noticed, and the principal who said that is black.


13 posted on 05/04/2010 6:30:10 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: Darren McCarty

This EXACT same thing happened to me in High School circa 1994.

I asked to go on a particular field trip and was informed by a guidance counselor that it was designed for “African American” students.

She didn’t prohibit me from going but strongly persuaded me not to go.

Cincinnati Public Schools = FFA = Future Felons of America


14 posted on 05/04/2010 6:30:22 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Any policy that treats people differently based on their race is BY DEFINITION racist.


15 posted on 05/04/2010 6:30:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Leg Olam

I don’t hear anyone bemoaning the “achievement gap” between white and Asian students.

Oh... right... that doesn’t “fit the template”.


16 posted on 05/04/2010 6:31:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: WayneS
...this type of achievement is possible for even them.

Not if they're wasting time on field trips instead of working on reading, writing, and math. By all means, let all the students see a rocket scientist - on video in the classroom. Have them take notes on the presentation and then produce compositions about what they heard. There's no pedagogical benefit simply from recognizing the existence of an engineer or scientist of any race.

Without a doubt, that is the most racist statement I have heard, read or seen so far this year.

It's definitely in the running.

17 posted on 05/04/2010 6:32:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick (It's a jungle out there, kiddies; have a very fruitful day.)
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To: Darren McCarty

Dicken Elementary School Principal Mike Madison

18 posted on 05/04/2010 6:33:53 AM PDT by magslinger (Tagline impounded as a threat to national security.)
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To: Darren McCarty
WHAT IS WRONG WITH BLACK KIDS WANTING TO BE ROCKET SCIENTISTS????
19 posted on 05/04/2010 6:34:11 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: TSgt

“I asked to go on a particular field trip and was informed by a guidance counselor that it was designed for “African American” students”.

...and if a field trip were for whites only we all know what would’ve happened.


20 posted on 05/04/2010 6:34:45 AM PDT by albie
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To: Darren McCarty
The intent of our field trip was not to segregate or exclude students...

Unless some white children of Boer ancestry were allowed to go on the trip, or unless the entire field trip happened by accident then this statement is 100% false.

Where human beings are concerned, the word "segregate" MEANS to separate or divide-up by race. You divided up the children by race and took children of one race on a field trip while leaving the others behind.

Thus, your INTENT was to segregate the students and exclude some of them from the trip.

21 posted on 05/04/2010 6:36:20 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Gay State Conservative
WHAT IS WRONG WITH BLACK KIDS WANTING TO BE ROCKET SCIENTISTS????

Nothing. The question is why exclude the whites, Asians, and Mexicans?

22 posted on 05/04/2010 6:37:29 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: Carley
Too stupid RACIST to think that white children would have benefited from hearing a black scientist speak?

I think that's a little bit more accuarate.

23 posted on 05/04/2010 6:37:44 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Gay State Conservative
WHAT IS WRONG WITH BLACK KIDS WANTING TO BE ROCKET SCIENTISTS????
24 posted on 05/04/2010 6:39:35 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: magslinger
I think they have a better understanding of the purpose of the AA Lunch Bunch

African American Lunch Bunch???

Segregation all over again don't ya think?

25 posted on 05/04/2010 6:40:27 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: WayneS; Carley

The same mentality states that a black constituency must be represented by a black elected official,
a black community must have a black superintendent,
black students can only learn from a black teacher.

Stupid, racist, and self-defeating.

Seriously, if they want to “close the white/black achievement gap”,

ASSIMILATE

the “black culture” into the more successful general culture.

Ooooo... that’ll make leftists’ heads explode.


26 posted on 05/04/2010 6:41:19 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

A lot is wrong with anyone’s “wanting” be a scientist, if he’s being systematically deprived of the basic academic skills needed even to imagine higher education in the sciences. In many public schools, the lower-achieving students can’t read basic texts, write a sentence, or do multiplication without a calculator. How are they helped by seeing that *someone* is an aeronautics engineer or a physicist?


27 posted on 05/04/2010 6:41:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick (It's a jungle out there, kiddies; have a very fruitful day.)
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To: Darren McCarty

From the article: “District spokeswoman Liz Margolis said after the trip was over, those who went returned to their fifth-grade class and were greeted by boos by those who didn’t go on the trip. Margolis said Madison, who is black, heard the boos, and went to talk to the class. She said he and the class had a “discussion” about race issues...”

I bet they did. Bravo to those who booed!


28 posted on 05/04/2010 6:41:49 AM PDT by sand lake bar
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To: knarf

I could not disagree with you more.

This is a clear case of Ann Arbor Schools displaying and promoting racism.

How about reflecting on the look on non-black kid’s faces displaying a sense of injustice?

How about reflecting on the empty expression of non-black children being told skin color does not matter except if you are of “color”?

This is just one clear example and is just the tip of the iceburg. Do you think if the “nuanced” educators can openly run this type of segregation and favortism that it stops at field trips.

And this BS has been a part of AAPS for years. It is part of the deeply cultural process of chosen demographic groups by color or gender.

No matter how this is described using educational buzzwords, it is BS.


29 posted on 05/04/2010 6:42:07 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Gay State Conservative
Is there a Caucasion American Lunch Bunch?

Is there a Asian American Lunch Bunch?

Is there a Mexican American Lunch Bunch?

Is there an Illegal Alien Lunch Bunch?

Is there a Gay American Lunch Bunch?

30 posted on 05/04/2010 6:42:38 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Darren McCarty

What happened to the mixed race students?


31 posted on 05/04/2010 6:42:43 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: sand lake bar
She said he and the class had a “discussion” about race issues...”

Discussion my ass. It went something like this, guaranteed:
You whities are "privileged", now just shut up, because YOU'RE guilty of racism because you're white.

32 posted on 05/04/2010 6:44:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Darren McCarty

He should have shown them this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xJzAYYrX8

It would have raised their self esteem.


33 posted on 05/04/2010 6:44:23 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: MrB

That’s Asian kids who just showed up the U.S. or their parents did. Why does that race not have a problem?

Reverse the races on this story and (1) Would make every network’s news — first story, Nightline (2) marches would take place in protest and (3) anyone involved fired.


34 posted on 05/04/2010 6:44:54 AM PDT by TigerBait
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To: ilovesarah2012

Maybe they could “self-identify” as “African-American” if they wanted to skip class, or as “European-American” if they wanted to stay in class and hopefully learn something. Or as “Asian-American,” for the best odds of actually becoming scientists of any kind ...


35 posted on 05/04/2010 6:45:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick (It's a jungle out there, kiddies; have a very fruitful day.)
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To: WayneS

I think the AA in AA lunch bunch means Ann Arbor

How stupid was the Principal to think that the black kids wouldn’t understand they were singled out because they were black AND under achieving?

He needs to be fired.
I see nothing of value for the students, black or white in doing what he did


36 posted on 05/04/2010 6:45:29 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: TexasCajun
May Responsibility - to respond when appropriate; to be accountable for one's actions

I pulled that from the website where I got the pic.

37 posted on 05/04/2010 6:46:05 AM PDT by magslinger (Tagline impounded as a threat to national security.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

It was the multi-syllabic words that confused the school administration.


38 posted on 05/04/2010 6:46:35 AM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Darren McCarty
An Ann Arbor elementary school principal used a letter home to parents tonight to defend a field trip [exclusively] for black students as part of his school’s efforts to close the achievement gap between white and black students. . .

Dude, I've got a great idea. Why don't you just give the black kids their own school? Oh, wait . . .

39 posted on 05/04/2010 6:47:12 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Darren McCarty; All

I am sick of hearing about the so-called “achievement gap”. I don’t have the specific reference but I read about a school that implemented some new teaching methods, and both black and white students increased their test scores by the same rate - 4%. A black “leader” indicated that this did absolutely nothing to close the gap - disregarding the fact that all students improved. So if the white students regressed and the black students stayed the same, that would make the race hustlers happy, I suppose.

This is WHY there is white flight and de facto segregation, and why it will continue until the black community stops blaming white success for their failures.


40 posted on 05/04/2010 6:49:30 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (If you believe in manmade global warming, you lack the gift of reason.)
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To: silverleaf

But, but you hard hearted people ... what about the look on the childrens’ faces?

Have you no heart strings to be tugged?


41 posted on 05/04/2010 6:50:04 AM PDT by altura
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To: Carley
Too stupid to think that white children would have benefited from hearing a black scientist speak?
*ding* *ding* *ding* (We have a winner!)

I was a sysadmin at a large university and some of the stupidest people I've ever met in my life were faculty at the school of education. I'm talking stunning, jaw-dropping stupidity.


42 posted on 05/04/2010 6:50:20 AM PDT by Peet (<- A.K.A. the Foundling)
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To: Tax-chick

LOL


43 posted on 05/04/2010 6:50:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Leg Olam

It’s not an “achievement gap” it’s an “ambition gap.”

Black culture denigrates studying as not “keepin’ it real.” Frankly if doing this helps to rid this from black culture, than maybe it isn’t such a bad thing to do after all. While I don’t necessarily agree with segregating the students, something does need to be done about trying address this attitude problem amongst many of the black population.


44 posted on 05/04/2010 6:51:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Darren McCarty

Whoever pulled this stunt must have slept through Martin Luther King’s “I have dream” speech.


45 posted on 05/04/2010 6:52:11 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Darren McCarty

100% RACISM


46 posted on 05/04/2010 6:53:01 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: Darren McCarty

“But as I reflect upon the look of excitement, enthusiasm and energy that I saw in these children’s eyes....”

Too bad he didn’t want to see that in ALL of the students eyes.

RACIST!!


47 posted on 05/04/2010 6:53:52 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: sand lake bar
The black kids learned that there are black rocket scientists. The white kids learned that if you object to preferential treatment for other groups, you're a racist.

I think Neil deGrasse Tyson would call himself an astronomer rather than a rocket scientist, but he's great--very knowledgeable and very enthusiastic about astronomy. I've seen him on TV and think it would be a great experience to hear him in person. I hope that when he visits elementary schools the white kids are not excluded because of their race.

48 posted on 05/04/2010 6:53:58 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: RWGinger

From the article:

“I think the African-American Lunch Bunch is totally in line with the district’s equity work,” she said...


49 posted on 05/04/2010 6:54:01 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Anyone who has attended or had children atttend AAPS knows the system. As very sentient beings, none of the daily expressions of faculty racism is lost.

So AAPS keeps churning out students that have learned to deal with (or struggle with) the absolutely overt racism and favoratism that has been part of the culture for decades.

If this were to have been a case of an educator pronouncing a balck student’s ethnic name wrong accidentally, the dung would have been accelerated by the fan!


50 posted on 05/04/2010 6:54:16 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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