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To: ICE-FLYER

“NY is one of the worst when it comes to exercising a RIGHT.

1. You must go to your local sheriff office on Tuesday or Thursday ONLY between 9 and 11 AM and pick up a package

2. You must get 4 affidavits signed by friends of yours which asks questions that invite them to say things against you. Each of these people must sign and mail from their own hand...you may not collect them and bring them in they must go by mail. The package is reviewed by the Sheriff’s office and then sent together to the Judges office.

3. You must pay for a Drivers Rip from the DMV of NY and send it in.

4. You must get fingerprinted 5 times and send all cards in.

5. You must answer a questionnaire much like the ones your friends did.

6. You must get a Postal Money Order for $74.00 as it is the ONLY form of payment, money is not legal tender in this case and a bank or personal check will not be accepted.

7. Once all items are collected they are to be sent in for review. That review does not start until the 4 questionnaires sent in are all there. THEN this is all reviewed together and recommendation is sent with all of it to a judge.

8. That Judge THEN gets to take 5 months and 29 days to issue or decline. If declined he or she must give you the reason in writing.

Problems: Many
1. If you use personal protection as a reason the judges many times DECLINE you saying you do not have a need regardless of the law clearly not allowing them to do so. The judges often put “For target and hunting only” on the outer portion of the permit though there is no provision in the law to do so. They back each other up on this if it is challenged. Other judges cite “precedent” which is a liberal leftists favorite thing because it skirts the will of the people and the intent of the laws they get passed.

2. If something is missing the Sheriff does not tell you as they are NOT required. It could sit for years.

3. You may be required to come in for an interview…that is BS as they have nothing in the law requiring it or saying they can but a judge simply says it is a “reasonable” request.”

I had to do all that when I first moved there. Alot of it depends on what county you live in. Some counties are easier than others. In my county they recently started issuing unrestricted permits but only if you have had a restricted permit for over 10 years.


11 posted on 05/05/2010 8:36:24 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Hacklehead
I had to do all that when I first moved there. A lot of it depends on what county you live in. Some counties are easier than others. In my county they recently started issuing unrestricted permits but only if you have had a restricted permit for over 10 years./i>

What a lie. They pull the ten year thing right out of their behind. As if it matters. What I have to now demonstrate for you for ten years? What a precedent setting lie...but that's what they want a precedent to then strip you further. ITS NOT IN THE LAW...Its illegal, they know it but we do not fight it. I blame us much of the time. While I am willing I have no funds and the NRA is actually weak on this at times.

12 posted on 05/05/2010 8:49:46 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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