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Soviet Subversion of the Free Press: A Conversation with Yuri Bezmenov
crossroad.to ^ | unknown | Edward Griffin

Posted on 05/07/2010 3:03:55 AM PDT by ICAB9USA

This shocking video transcription exposes KGB's subversive tactics against western society. In this interview, Yuri Bezmenov explains how Marxist ideology is deconstructing America's values, destabilizing the economy, and provoking crises in order to sovietize the free world. Some of the videos below are from different portions of the same interview.

Partial Transcript:

ED GRIFFIN: Well, you spoke before about "ideological subversion" and that's a phrase that I'm afraid some Americans don't understand. When the Soviets use the phrase "ideological subversion" what do they mean by it?

1. YURI BEZMENOV: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate and open. You can see it with your own eyes.... It has nothing to do with espionage. I know that intelligence gathering looks more romantic.... That's probably why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond types of films. But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first one being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism....

The result? The result you can see ... the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.

In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society.

ED: And yet these people who have been programmed and as you say [are] in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept - these are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country?

YURI: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when they will see in [the] future what the beautiful society of EQUALITY and social justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy [and] frustrated people, and Marxist-Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. Obviously they will join the [ranks] of dissenters; dissidents. Unlike the present United States there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America.

[Now] you can get popular like Daniel Elsburg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being a dissident [and] for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future these people will simply be [he makes a squishy noise] squashed like cockroaches for criticizing the government. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful [and] noble ideas of EQUALITY. This they don't understand and it will be the greatest shock for them, of course.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years. Actually, it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. ...he will refuse to believe it.... That's the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization.... It only takes 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. This time what matters is essentials; economy, foreign relations, [and] defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some... sensitive areas such as defense and [the] economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast. Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system train another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime. False.

United States is in a state of war; undeclared, total war against the basic principles and foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov of course - it's the system. However, ridiculous it may sound, [it is] the world Communist system, or the world Communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If you're not scared by now, nothing can scare you.

ED: Okay, so what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people?

YURI: Well, the immediate thing that comes to mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of REAL patriotism, number one. Number two, to explain [to] them the real danger of socialist, communist, welfare state, Big Brother government.... The moment at least part of [the] United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to FORCE their government... to stop aiding Communism.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: kgb; subversion

1 posted on 05/07/2010 3:03:56 AM PDT by ICAB9USA
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Yuri Bezmenov explains how Marxist ideology is deconstructing America's values, destabilizing the economy, and provoking crises in order to sovietize the free world.

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An alternative title:

Obama Supporters Explained by Former Soviet KGB

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2 posted on 05/07/2010 3:05:57 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ICAB9USA

I got out of school before the Communists took control. I have a lot of young friends and they are clueless. They really believe the PC BS.


3 posted on 05/07/2010 3:14:32 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (S)
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To: Kaslin; MNJohnnie; screaminsunshine; throwback; ETL; onyx; Jack Hydrazine; Tallguy; oyez; rob777; ..

.... ping


4 posted on 05/07/2010 3:20:18 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ICAB9USA

Wow. Spot on.

Second to the last paragraph starts:
“The next stage is destabilization...”

That would seem to be where Obama comes in. Describes what he’s doing exactly.


5 posted on 05/07/2010 3:23:03 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: screaminsunshine
re: I got out of school before the Communists took control. I have a lot of young friends and they are clueless

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You really ought to check out these tapes by Bezmenov and pass them along to the clueless. The excellent talkshow guy, Jim Quinn (warroom.com), has been reading his words on the radio over the past days.

The guy's (Bezmenov) speeches are penetrating and totally right-on.

6 posted on 05/07/2010 3:23:55 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
re: Second to the last paragraph starts: “The next stage is destabilization...”

That would seem to be where Obama comes in. Describes what he’s doing exactly.

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Yes. An alternative title: Obama Supporters Explained by Former Soviet KGB

7 posted on 05/07/2010 3:25:34 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ICAB9USA

We were taught Capitalism ‘let the buyer beware’. They do not do that anymore. I have a complete different point of view than the young folks.


8 posted on 05/07/2010 3:35:09 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (S)
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To: ICAB9USA

“You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.”


Well I can say when it comes to people who were “sitting on the fence” I’ve turned a lot of those people to the right. When it comes to someone completely drenched in leftism: I don’t think I’ve turned a single one of them.


9 posted on 05/07/2010 3:45:51 AM PDT by CommieCutter (Obamanomics :Privatize Gains, Socialize Losses.)
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To: ICAB9USA

Thanks for posting this. I was thinking about this guy the other day (I’ve seen some of his other interviews). And for the life of me, I couldn’t remember his name.

FWIW, while I’m an agnostic on Glenn Beck, his TV show on Thursday was outstanding, as his audience was legal immigrants only. In the 2nd half of the show, his guests who hailed from former Communist/Socialist nations described how many Americans are not able to see what is going on here. And how it mirrors what they left behind in their home countries!


10 posted on 05/07/2010 3:59:20 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: ICAB9USA

This explains a lot, like, “How did Obama get elected President?”.


11 posted on 05/07/2010 4:27:18 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: ICAB9USA

Did Communism Fake Its Own Death in 1991?
American Thinker ^ | January 16, 2010 | Jason McNew

In a bizarre 1984 book [New Lies for Old], ex-KGB Major Anatoliy Golitsyn predicted the liberalization of the Soviet Bloc and claimed that it would be a strategic deception. ..."

"Golitsyn's argument was that beginning in about 1960, the Soviet Union embarked on a strategy of massive long-range strategic deception which would span several decades and result in the destruction of Western capitalism and the erection of a communist world government."

"Golitsyn published his second book, The Perestroika Deception, after the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991. This book contained further analysis of the liberalization, in addition to previously classified memoranda submitted by Golitsyn to the CIA. The two books must be read together to get a complete picture of Golitsyn's thesis."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/did_communism_fake_its_own_dea.html

12 posted on 05/07/2010 4:48:50 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ICAB9USA
[former US Treasury secretary Hank] Paulson claims Russia tried to foment Fannie-Freddie crisis

Financial Times ^ | Published: January 29 2010 21:06 | By Krishna Guha in Washington

Russia proposed to China that the two nations should sell Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds in 2008 to force the US government to bail out the giant mortgage-finance companies, former US Treasury secretary Hank Paulson has claimed.

The allegation is in his memoir On the Brink in which he also suggests that Alistair Darling, the UK chancellor, blocked a rescue takeover of Lehman Brothers by Barclays Bank when he refused to support special treatment by UK regulators.

“Russian officials had made a top-level approach to the Chinese, suggesting that together they might sell big chunks of their GSE holdings to force the US to use its emergency authorities to prop up these companies,” he said.

Fannie and Freddie are known as GSEs or government sponsored enterprises.

“The Chinese had declined to go along with the disruptive scheme, but the report was deeply troubling,” he said. A senior Russian official told the Financial Times that he could not comment on the allegation.

Separately, Mr Paulson makes it clear that he believes that Mr Darling prevented a takeover of Lehman by Barclays out of fear that it would endanger the UK bank.

Mr Paulson said that Mr Darling telephoned him on Friday September 12 – as the US authorities were scrambling to find a buyer for Lehman – to express concern about a possible Barclays deal. Mr Paulson said that he did not realise at the time that this was a “clear warning”.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...

13 posted on 05/07/2010 4:50:43 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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14 posted on 05/07/2010 4:52:03 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses

BUMP & KEEP BUMPING


15 posted on 05/07/2010 4:54:15 AM PDT by pcpa
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To: ICAB9USA

I saw this video for the first time last spring. Every hair stood up on the back of my neck and instantly everything became clear to me, what was happening. Instinctively I knew something was very wrong but I didn’t understand the big picture. Now I do.


16 posted on 05/07/2010 4:54:29 AM PDT by riri
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

exactly where we are now. I think Obama is disappointed it’s taking too long to bring us to our knees.
Beware the next few months.
I fully expect something to happen to subvert the elections.
We are ripe for the picking now.


17 posted on 05/07/2010 5:21:27 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (To argue witha person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead)
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To: CommieCutter
I hear you. The “fence folks” are still salvagable.
18 posted on 05/07/2010 6:52:45 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: RoadTest
This explains a lot, like, “How did Obama get elected President?”.

Yes.

Please SEE post # 2.

19 posted on 05/07/2010 6:54:13 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ETL
Communism did fake their own death.

Thank you for your excellent posts on Russia in general on FR ....... and this post itself.

20 posted on 05/07/2010 6:56:08 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: riri
I saw this video for the first time last spring. Every hair stood up on the back of my neck and instantly everything became clear to me, what was happening. Instinctively I knew something was very wrong but I didn't’t understand the big picture. Now I do.

Yes.

I saw it all happening on the college campus and elsewhere. I was in college from '64 through '69. I saw the communists altering the minds of kids I previously had respected.

Most of what the Russians did was easy..... after all ........ most kids think they have a gripe against their parents at that time in their lives.

Kids are so damn stupid............. now we have Obama.

21 posted on 05/07/2010 7:00:01 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: vanilla swirl
re: Beware the next few months. I fully expect something to happen to subvert the elections. We are ripe for the picking now.

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Yes. War.

22 posted on 05/07/2010 7:00:48 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ETL

I said this in 1989 when the Berlin Wall came down — it was so obvious — but then, I had the advantage of having traveled all through Europe since childhood and meeting so many refugees from communist countries.


23 posted on 05/07/2010 7:06:52 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: ICAB9USA
The first one being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country

So?...Conservatives, what's the plan for RE-moralization? If we are to have any hope of saving our nation conservatives must do 2 things simultaneously:

SHUT DOWN GOVERNMENT K-12 SCHOOLING!!!

See that every child in our nation has access to a private conservative K-12 education that thoroughly integrates Judeo Christian values and our nation's founding principles into **every** course and school policy!

If conservatives were to do the above within 10 years our nation's colleges and university classrooms would be filled to the brim with youth who were prepared to defend their faith and our nation's founding values. There would be vigorous and strong conservative clubs, fraternities, and sororities. Their Marxist professors would wither before their righteousness!

Within 15 years conservative young adults would be taking their places in academia and in every area of our culture.

Within 20 years the nation would see RE-moralization. ( I just hope it is not too late.)

Yes, conservatives do rally on occasion to push back specific legislation. The Tea Parties are one example of this...but...conservatives **consistently** fail to address RE-moralization!

Those of you who know my posts, know that for years I have been warning about the extreme threat that government schools K-12 pose for our nation.

Marxism is our nation's **most** serious and urgent threat. Government K-12 schools are the Marxists' **most** important and powerful weapon against us.

Marxists have near complete control of teacher training, curriculum development, and teacher unions. When will conservatives **finally** come to understand that socialist-modeled, socialist-funded, single payer government K-12 schools can NOT NOT NOT be reformed! Government schools are the very definition of socialism and socialism can NOT be reformed!

Simply by attending children learn to be comfortable with taking other people's money to pay for a service that their parents want for tuition-free! Government schools were corrupt from the very day they opened in the mid-1800s! Within one to two generations we had the IRS, direct election of Senators, the feminist movement, unions, and the failed "one world" League of Nations. And...This was my great-grandparents' generation! My parents and grand parents thought FDR , with his socialist New Deal, was the next best thing to Moses!

My plan:

Conservatives should fund education foundations. The foundation would do the following:

** Award grants to conservative teachers who would open tuition-free one-room schools in their homes or small rented spaces. ( I will explain the need for "tuition-free" later.)

** The foundations would certify the teacher, approve the curriculum, and test the students.

**The foundations would organize sports leagues to break the monopoly that government schools have on our nation's system of minor league and farm team sports. They would also sponsor cheerleading and the other "rah rah" now associated with government schools.

** The foundations would organize community-wide science labs, band, orchestra, chorus, theater, and other arts programs.

** The foundations would organize the parents to lobby for complete shut down of government schooling, and massive reductions in property and sales taxes.

Our universities and colleges have endowments in the BILLIONS. Harvard alone has an endowment of $35 BILLION! Because government is running a price-fixed cartel, and pricing its services at tuition-free) we do not see private K-12 education equally endowed.

If government had not planted it great big hairy foot down in the middle of the private market of private schooling in the mid-1800s, perhaps today we would have private education soooooo well endowed that no child in this nation would every need to pay a dime in private school tuition!

Since our price-fixed cartel government schools are giving away its product for tuition-free, at least initially, conservative foundation schools would need to meet this price of tuition-free.

Hopefully, conservative leaders will see the need for RE-moralization and work to formulate a plan. IT IS URGENT! We must start NOW!

(Sorry! Now proof read. I am in a rush.)

24 posted on 05/07/2010 7:34:09 AM PDT by wintertime
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So?...Conservatives, what's the plan for RE-moralization? If we are to have any hope of saving our nation conservatives must do 2 things simultaneously: SHUT DOWN GOVERNMENT K-12 SCHOOLING!!! See that every child in our nation has access to a private conservative K-12 education that thoroughly integrates Judeo Christian values and our nation's founding principles into **every** course and school policy!

YES!

25 posted on 05/07/2010 7:50:40 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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wow...amazing stuff there. His Yuri still out there talking? Is this recent?


26 posted on 05/07/2010 7:53:14 AM PDT by fabian
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re: Is this recent?

LOL.

Hey Fabian .......

........ if you go to the original source you will see that it is far from "recent" (1984).

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27 posted on 05/07/2010 8:20:01 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ICAB9USA
A simple observation of events in and around America provides ample evidence of Yuri's candor.

Understanding fully requires attention to a lot of detailed information.

Correcting or reversing this program is even more complex than understanding it fully, but among the excellent suggestions on this thread, education seems to be key.

I have met so many young useful idiots that cannot comprehend that the society of equality they demand will only provide them equality in death.

The license of youth and ignorance are responsible and useful idiots have no motivation to become aware, it requires work.

28 posted on 05/07/2010 8:22:06 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot
I have met so many young useful idiots that cannot comprehend that the society of equality they demand will only provide them equality in death.

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... so true.

29 posted on 05/07/2010 8:25:39 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: vanilla swirl

I agreee. I keep saying, and it bears repeating, that I don’t think we will ever have national elecions again.
I hope I am wrong.


30 posted on 05/07/2010 8:50:09 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: ICAB9USA
I was in college from ‘64 through ‘69. I saw the communists altering the minds of kids I previously had respected.
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I graduated from high school in 1964, and, yes, I saw the same. Why did this happen?

Answer: It is because the youth were essentially rudderless, and too few had a firm Judeo-Christian polar star to guide their lives. Why?

Answer: By 1964 our government schools were essentially godless in their worldview. Yes, we did have a minute of two of a scripture verse and Lord's Prayer in the morning during homeroom, but for the remainder of the day **every** subject was approached, analyzed, and delivered by the teacher in a secular and godless manner.

We were taught to **think** godlessly! By the time I attended government school, this had already been the practice for several decades. Yes, our society functioned fairly well during those decades up until the late 60s, but I believe we, as a nation, were running on our spiritual reserve tank. By the time the 60s hit the tank was empty.

I had the good fortune to attend tuition-free Catholic parochial schools for 10 years. My last 2 years were in government high school. The following describes some of the practices in the Catholic schools I attended. The contrast between a Christ-centered education and the godlessly directed government education was very stark.

*** We dressed modestly because the nuns were helping us to understand that our bodies were a gift from God, housed our eternal spirits, and were literally temples.

** We asked for God's blessings on every hour and on the new topic to be studied.

** Of course there was a half hour of religious studies in the morning.

** The writings and philosophy of our church leaders were woven into all of courses.

** We studied the lives of the righteous people who opposed evil ( commonly called “saints”) and they were held up to us as heroes whose lives we should model.

** Even with subjects seem secular ( science and math) we were reminded at appropriate times that the natural world reflected God's glory and power, and it was a our duty to learn as much as possible about it.

** If we heard an ambulance, police, or fire siren, we stopped the class and said a prayer for those who might be in need.

** If a child in the school, a parent, or relative was ill we prayed for them by name.

** Every year in the spring we had a spiritual “retreat” where religious leaders from the diocese would come to the school to speak to us.

** We were encouraged to go to mass before school.

Please read post #24.

If we are to have any hope for saving this nation we MUST MUST MUST shut down the godless government schools and offer all the children in this nation a truly God-centered private education that upholds and thoroughly integrates their family's Judeo Christian values into every topic studied.

We MUST MUST MUST shut down the government schools. They are godless. Even at their best, when they opened in the mid-1800s, the religiously pablum offered up was already generic and lukewarm. It had to be if it was to be accepted by the majority of the community. ( We know what Christ does to the lukewarm.) And...As with all socialist government programs the push was always toward increasing amounts of godless secularism and greater centralization.

31 posted on 05/07/2010 10:48:47 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime
We MUST MUST MUST shut down the government schools. They are godless.

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I hear you.

You are correct.

32 posted on 05/07/2010 10:51:28 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ICAB9USA

o, well I was lazy and didn’t check the source! Nice picture there..I am handsomer though!


33 posted on 05/07/2010 8:47:45 PM PDT by fabian
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To: riri

mark


34 posted on 05/11/2010 4:06:40 AM PDT by riri
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To: ICAB9USA

A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information.


Money quote..................


35 posted on 05/11/2010 4:14:17 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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