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To: SJackson
I agree that Johnson was not as staunch a supporter of Israel as other presidents, some before him, some after him have been. But for each prior president the need, both moral and practical, for the continued existence of the Jewish state was a given.

For Obama, Israel's destruction would be an answer to his (beautiful morning) prayers in two ways.

First, it would achieve the #1 goal of all Muslims, thew destruction of Israel.

Secondly, it sends an irrefutable message to the rest of the Western world that America does not stand by her friends.... so don't be America’s friend.

We recently sent the same message when Hillary backed Argentina in the call for renewed talks on the Falklands. This was a huge slap at the UK.

When we accept the fact that Obama wants to see the US removed as a world power, then all the rest becomes readily understandable.

Be well

16 posted on 05/09/2010 12:07:17 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: MindBender26
But for each prior president the need, both moral and practical, for the continued existence of the Jewish state was a given.

I think it is for Obama too. But he's a neophyte, what fool wins an election as he did and turns over his legislative agenda to Pelosi/Reed, rather than driving it as FDR did. Foreign affairs, same thing, kumbaya time, we'll sit down and talk it out. He's clueless. If I had to pick a President who wasn't committed to the existance of Israel, it would be Truman. Good think this isn't a leftist site. Recognition is nice, but an arms embargo, against Israel, while selling arms to the Arabs. Like sending David out against Goliath, not the expected result.

You're correct he want's to see America removed as a world power, I'm not sure how Israel fits into that though. I suspect his policies are simply Rev. Wrights black liberation theology at work. You've got a successful "white" state, vs an unsuccessful "black" terror state. It's obvious who to support. Understanding that in liberation theology black/white equates to rich/poor, privledged/underprivledged. Lots of freepers would understand this guy a lot better if they got off the "He's a Muslim" stuff, and looked at the faith he practiced. Which even Cardinal Ratzinger acknowledged was more Marxist than Christianity. But a faith non the less.

17 posted on 05/09/2010 12:15:36 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: MindBender26

BTW, didn’t mean to ignore the LBJ thing. I don’t think he cared much about Israel, he had a full plate. And post 1967, the Suez was closed to the Soviets. Around Africa to supply North Vietnam. We’ll know eventually, but there are sources, Israeli, that claim Israel approached LBJ to cut a deal for recognition in return for a return to the pre war lines. Jerusalem, perhaps, an issue. I’m told that FOA requests suggest that it’s true, but by lack of response to requests, that LBJ never approached the Arabs, while assuring Israel he had. Not a big issue to me, Vietnam was more important. Israel should have contacted the Arab states through someone else.


18 posted on 05/09/2010 12:20:13 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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