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To: mlocher
This potentially is not a pretty thought, especially when it collapses on itself, instead of being disassembled by voters.

Welfare states have never been disassembled by its own voters. The voters in a welfare state have been "captured", so to speak, by all the entitlements they receive. The promise by government of free healthcare, free education, free dentures, high wages, short workweeks, guaranteed paid vacations, etc., creates a dependent "entitlement" mentality. The rioting in Greece is psychologically the exact opposite of the Tea Party mentality. The former is "You promised us...you owe us!"; the latter is "There's nothing you can offer us that we can't get for ourselves, so get out of our lives and leave us alone!"

Europeans don't know a thing about that sort of mindset; it's completely foreign to them.

21 posted on 05/09/2010 11:37:55 PM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: GoodDay
The former is "You promised us...you owe us!"; the latter is "There's nothing you can offer us that we can't get for ourselves, so get out of our lives and leave us alone!"

What is happening in Greece is definitely the collapse of the welfare state, but it also represents what I think will break out throughout all the fat and lazy western entitlement societies. The first 'revolutionary' conflicts we see will be internal fighting within the state as the lazy welfare queens all fight over the dieing corpse of statism. And of course the media organs of the state will do everything they can to hide and obscure that fact. So the Greece rioters are mad because of those evil bankers. The reality is that those evil bankers are just debt distributing agents for the state.

25 posted on 05/10/2010 1:07:50 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: GoodDay
The voters in a welfare state have been "captured", so to speak, by all the entitlements they receive.

I would take your idea a bit further and come right out and say they have been ENSLAVED.

29 posted on 05/10/2010 2:07:21 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Is it okay to wear an American flag t-shirt in America on Jamhuri (Kenyan Independence) Day?)
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