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Google's Android takes No 2 spot from iPhone in US
Reuters ^ | May 10, 2010 12:53pm | By Alexei Oreskovic

Posted on 05/10/2010 11:24:56 AM PDT by SmokingJoe

* Google's Android OS in 28 pct of U.S. smartphones in Q1

* Apple U.S. iPhone share 21 pct in Q1

* Research in Motion retains No. 1 rank with 36 pct share

SAN FRANCISCO, May 10 (Reuters) - Google Inc (GOOG.O) displaced iPhone maker Apple Inc (AAPL.O) to become the second most popular provider of smartphone software in the United States during the first quarter, the latest sign of the increasing competition in the fast-growing mobile market.

Smartphones featuring Google's Android operating system accounted for 28 percent of U.S. smartphone unit sales in the first quarter according to NPD Group, behind top-ranked Research in Motion (RIM.TO), maker of the Blackberry phone, which had a 36 percent share of the market.

Smartphones, which allow consumers to surf the web, send email and run specialized applications on wide, color screens, are increasingly replacing no-frills cell phones for many U.S. consumers.

The devices have become a prime battleground for a variety of tech companies seeking to ensure a good position in the evolving market.

Last month, Hewlett-Packard Co. (HPQ.N) said it would pay $1.2 billion to acquire Palm Inc (PALM.O), which sells two smartphone models based on its WebOS operating system. Microsoft Corp (MSFT.O), whose Windows operating system is used in the majority of the world's PCs, unveiled a pair of smartphones last month and recently launched a revamped version of its mobile operating system.

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KEYWORDS: android; apple; google; iphone; telecom
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Well, that didn't take long.
1 posted on 05/10/2010 11:24:56 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

What’s the adavantage of Droid over iPhone?


2 posted on 05/10/2010 11:27:44 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: SmokingJoe

Apple isn’t worried because the iPad is”THE new game changer.”

lol


3 posted on 05/10/2010 11:28:35 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The Quran and Mein Kampf: if you've read one you've read them both.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Droids will take over the world soon.


4 posted on 05/10/2010 11:29:05 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: BlessedBeGod
What’s the adavantage of Droid over iPhone?

It's not Apple? ;-)

Really, it's the open source O/S. There are multiple Android-based phones, but only one iPhone. Competition is a Good Thing.

5 posted on 05/10/2010 11:29:16 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: SmokingJoe

I don’t have any statistics to back up this guess but... I’ll be that most would-be purchasers of the iPhone are wisely waiting for the next one due to be announced next month. I have the 3g version... and I can’t wait!


6 posted on 05/10/2010 11:29:51 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: SmokingJoe

On top of the flying lawsuits, having to deal with the blow back from having that editor’s house ransaked by the police,their public argument with Adobe and the new scrutiny into their trade practices, this has been a tough 2 weeks for Steve-o and crew.


7 posted on 05/10/2010 11:30:40 AM PDT by Thurston_Howell_III (Ahoy polloi... where did you come from, a scotch ad?)
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To: BlessedBeGod

It’s open source software, whereas the iPhone software is proprietary.


8 posted on 05/10/2010 11:30:52 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: pgyanke

I think you are right...I’m waiting for the new iPhone in June.

But competition is great for all of us!


9 posted on 05/10/2010 11:31:50 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: BlessedBeGod

It’s not AT&T.


10 posted on 05/10/2010 11:31:51 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: BlessedBeGod

iphone is more user friendly.. The Droid is more technical and takes getting used to.. What I don’t like about the Droid is it’s too easy to touch a button you didn’t intend on touching.. Very frustrating!


11 posted on 05/10/2010 11:32:21 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: BlessedBeGod
The Droid fills a line up void on providers other than AT&T. If, as rumored, Apple is making a GSM/CDMA hybrid phone and gets a Verizon provided model going, there will be lots of broken Droid contracts forthcoming.

I have played around on my father in law's Droid and my most lasting impression of it is that it is a kludge of an interface compared to the iPhone OS.
12 posted on 05/10/2010 11:33:44 AM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: BlessedBeGod

Droid is Verizon and you are not tied in to only Apple approved apps. Both are very good. I have an Ipod Touch and now a Droid, and love both interfaces. Android is the first thing I have seen that remotely rivals the Apple interface. It is different, but not better or worse. Both are A+ quality, IMO.


13 posted on 05/10/2010 11:36:49 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: BlessedBeGod

Cost, functionality, configurability. Oh, and Android phones don’t care what you run on them, you’re free do run any application you like, and develop in any language you like.


14 posted on 05/10/2010 11:39:10 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: BlessedBeGod
What’s the adavantage of Droid over iPhone?

Amongst other things, Android will be getting Flash in June, and the iPhone will never get Flash. If you to surf the hundreds of thousands of web sites that only use Flash, don't buy the iPhone.

Confirmed: Flash Coming to Android Phones in June

In an official blog post, Adobe CTO Kevin Lynch confirmed that Flash 10.1 support will be coming to Google Android phones in June, with a developer preview at the Google I/O conference on May 19-20.

This may dovetail with the launch of Android 2.2, which Google vice president Andy Rubin said earlier this week will include Flash.

We saw Flash running on Android phones back in February. Back then, Adobe said that Flash will run on phones with ARM Cortex-A8 processors and 50 MBytes or more of available RAM. That means Flash will run on the Google Nexus One, HTC Incredible, and Motorola Droid, but not the T-Mobile G1, MyTouch 3G, HTC Hero, or HTC Droid Eris, for instance.

While Apple is obviously off the list for Flash support, Lynch reconfirmed that Adobe is continuing to develop Flash for other platforms, including “RIM, Palm (soon to be HP), Microsoft, Nokia and others.” RIM confirmed earlier this week that it's working on Flash for BlackBerrys, and Adobe had a basic demo of Flash on a Palm Pre at the Mobile World Congress trade show in February.”
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2363274,00.asp

15 posted on 05/10/2010 11:39:52 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: pgyanke

Great, can’t wait! Will the new version let me make phone calls? If it will, then my iPhone will be perfect.


16 posted on 05/10/2010 11:41:12 AM PDT by DryFly
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To: SmokingJoe

Android is an OS that is running several phones right now, from at least two different companies. iPhone OS runs in only one phone. Apples and oranges, IMO.

But to me the problem with Android is it cannot do hands-free voice dialing and that is the deal breaker.


17 posted on 05/10/2010 11:42:05 AM PDT by zeebee (There are no coincidences.)
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To: Thurston_Howell_III
On top of the flying lawsuits, having to deal with the blow back from having that editor’s house ransaked by the police,their public argument with Adobe and the new scrutiny into their trade practices, this has been a tough 2 weeks for Steve-o and crew

Serves him bloody right.
He is now worse than any run of the mill dictator. The Gestapo style pre-down raid and breaking down of the doors of the Gizmodo editor was beyond the pale.
Then Steve Jobs boycotts Fox for criticizing 0bama, while at the same time promoting the arch terrorist Che Guevara. Time for conservative consumers to start dumping Steve Jobs little toy and buying other smart phone instead.

18 posted on 05/10/2010 11:47:27 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: ilgipper
Droid is Verizon and you are not tied in to only Apple approved apps. Both are very good. I have an Ipod Touch and now a Droid, and love both interfaces. Android is the first thing I have seen that remotely rivals the Apple interface. It is different, but not better or worse. Both are A+ quality, IMO.

The Pod people will be dropping by shortly to put an end to your heresy.

19 posted on 05/10/2010 11:47:55 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: zeebee
Android is an OS that is running several phones right now, from at least two different companies. iPhone OS runs in only one phone. Apples and oranges, IMO

You know there is more than one version of the iPhone on sale right now. As for the iPhone being sold only on AT&T, well that was Apple's decision wasn't it? They tried to impose intolerable conditions on Verizon to start off with, so Verizon refused to bite.

20 posted on 05/10/2010 11:56:00 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

DDRROOOOOOIDDDD

Tried both side by side downloading large attachments in emails. Downloading web content. Droid was by far faster and it’s open source OS makes it much easier and more competitive for apps.

Iphones dont work very well with my companies networks and servers. Droid was much easier to synch with my office computer.

The phone also has a real keyboard not virtual like Iphone.


21 posted on 05/10/2010 12:00:20 PM PDT by pblax8
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To: pblax8

So will we see a Droid version of the iPad?


22 posted on 05/10/2010 12:02:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SmokingJoe
Research in Motion retains No. 1 rank with 36 pct share

2 weeks into my Blackberry 9700 and loving it.

23 posted on 05/10/2010 12:03:18 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: pgyanke
I’ll be that most would-be purchasers of the iPhone are wisely waiting for the next one due to be announced next month. I have the 3g version... and I can’t wait!

Well Android is just about to get the amazing HTC Incredible and the HTC Desire and the HTC EVO 4G. Those 3 phones are going to send Android's market share rocketing even higher. Even the HTC HD2 on WinMo 6.5 has been selling like hot cakes since release in March.

24 posted on 05/10/2010 12:06:09 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: dfwgator

There will be lots of Droid tablet computers in the coming weeks. They just won’t be called iPad’s.


25 posted on 05/10/2010 12:08:44 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe


RIM could be next.
26 posted on 05/10/2010 12:23:59 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: BlessedBeGod

Well there are a lot more phones to choose from for starters. Oh and you don’t have to be on AT & T’s service.

It’s inevitable that Google will win it’s smartphone war against Apple. Phone manufaturers like free and Android is free.


27 posted on 05/10/2010 12:24:18 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: SmokingJoe

Woohoo! Go DROID!


28 posted on 05/10/2010 12:24:44 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: dfwgator
So will we see a Droid version of the iPad?

Probably not. I think Apple has a copyright on devices that combine totally cool and completely useless. And either way, they seems to be the only company that can sell completely useless products and still make a profit.

29 posted on 05/10/2010 12:25:02 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: SmokingJoe
I code for both, and I will say that in the last several weeks the hatred for Apple among developers has become palpable. Even some Objective-C programmers acknowledge that Apple's decision to control the developer tool-chain with a lot of nonsense babble about "app quality," "multitasking robustness," blah-blah-blah is a restraint of trade and quite EVIL indeed.

In the long run, I believe this is the end of the iPhone as a dominant platform, and it will settle into the 10-15% market typical for Apple: the land of die-hard fanboiz who're willing to pay 25-50% more for hardware than it's actually worth. There are millions more C#, C++, and Java developers than there are Objective-C coders, and those developers are going to code for 'Droid first from now on, using the tools they're familiar with, then try to retrofit to the 90's toolset (IB and Objective-C) that Apple provides as an afterthought. Amusingly, Apple isn't even capable of compiling the code it dictates developers must use: the compiler is gcc.

Apple's lock-down-control-everything approach has been challenged by an open source platform once before: in the early 1980's. Apple's fail in that case is the most epic of all time: they went from market domination to "who dey?" in the space of months. Job's learned nothing and now they are going to lose again. Ironically, the only thing that really saved Apple from complete destruction in the 90's for their fascist business practices was Adobe. Now little Stevie Hitler has alienated them, too. If the FTC, SEC, or DOJ do not take action against iEvil, Adobe will.

I'm sure the fanboiz will be arriving shortly to flame away. All I can say is, I make a great living off Apple, but now that it's fallen to No. 3, I'll be making even more money from 'Droid.

30 posted on 05/10/2010 12:25:15 PM PDT by FredZarguna (SEC: litigation against Apple by mutiple Federal agencies is likely and imminent.)
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To: The_Victor
Probably not. I think Apple has a copyright on devices that combine totally cool and completely useless. And either way, they seems to be the only company that can sell completely useless products and still make a profit.

Well put.

31 posted on 05/10/2010 12:25:38 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts
What I don’t like about the Droid is it’s too easy to touch a button you didn’t intend on touching.. Very frustrating!

No doubt a charecteristic of the paticular phone rather than a deficiency of the OS.

32 posted on 05/10/2010 12:25:38 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: The_Victor

The iPad: Proving once again that Barnum probably underestimated.


33 posted on 05/10/2010 12:26:39 PM PDT by FredZarguna (SEC: litigation against Apple by mutiple Federal agencies is likely and imminent.)
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To: FredZarguna
All I can say is, I make a great living off Apple, but now that it's fallen to No. 3, I'll be making even more money from ‘Droid.

Good for you.
That's what the free market economy is all about.

34 posted on 05/10/2010 12:28:52 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Smogger
It’s inevitable that Google will win it’s smartphone war against Apple. Phone manufaturers like free and Android is free

Yup.
Phone makers don't have to spend money developing their own OS either, which cuts down on their costs. Google was smart on making Android free, so they can make money off Google mobile web instead. Microsoft would be wise to make Window Phone 7 free as well (and make money off mobile Bing) or they'll be history in the smart phone business.

35 posted on 05/10/2010 12:34:19 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: BlessedBeGod; Swordmaker; Star Traveler
"What’s the adavantage [sic] of Droid over iPhone?"

According to the MSheeple who obsess on trashing Mac threads here on FR, the Droid's sole advantage is it is not from Apple...

36 posted on 05/10/2010 12:45:56 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Apple isn't worried because the iPad is" THE new game changer."

Let Apple be complacent to their own detriment, because only the paranoid survive. I don't believe in the ipad's claim as a game changer, but if it is, Android will easily steal this boutique niche, too.

37 posted on 05/10/2010 12:48:48 PM PDT by Vision Thing (He has a white house, and he wants to paint it black.)
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To: SmokingJoe
Smartphones, which allow consumers to surf the web, send email and run specialized applications on wide, color screens, are increasingly replacing no-frills cell phones for many U.S. consumers

Along with the corresponding fees as well. As hard as it is to believe, there are still some of us neanderthals out here who still use a cell phone to *GASP* talk on.


38 posted on 05/10/2010 12:50:21 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their ass at God while praying.)
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To: TXnMA

LOL ... you got that right ... :-)


39 posted on 05/10/2010 12:57:10 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Wait until they mount an iPad on a Segway - the Universe will never be the same again!!


40 posted on 05/10/2010 1:03:06 PM PDT by GunningForTheBuddha ("History teaches us that no one learns from history.")
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To: BlessedBeGod

41 posted on 05/10/2010 1:27:45 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: TChris; BigSkyFreeper; Republic of Texas; divine_moment_of_facts; Goldsborough; ilgipper; ...

Thanks for all of your replies. They’re much appreciated.


42 posted on 05/10/2010 2:35:50 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
NPD Stats show AndroidOS smartphones take number 2 spot from iPhones in US. PING!


IPhone Ping!

If you want on or off the Apple/Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

43 posted on 05/10/2010 3:02:59 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: SmokingJoe
They tried to impose intolerable conditions on Verizon to start off with, so Verizon refused to bite.

Revisionist history Smokingjoe! Apple offered the iPhone first to Verizon. Verizon wanted to make all of the iPhone features available ala carte. You want Internet? That's extra? Visual voice mail? Extra! iTunes? Extra charge! Email? Extra! Notepad app? Buy it from Verizon. And they refused to upgrade their system to what was necessary to handle the iPhone.

AT&T agreed to an all in one price for everything and agreed to spend the money to upgrade their system.

44 posted on 05/10/2010 3:14:31 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: pgyanke
I’ll be that most would-be purchasers of the iPhone are wisely waiting for the next one due to be announced next month. I have the 3g version... and I can’t wait!

Bingo!

45 posted on 05/10/2010 3:16:54 PM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: Swordmaker
Apple offered the iPhone first to Verizon

Yes, and tried to charge them an arm and a leg for that "privilege". Verizon wasn't having none of that. Those are the “intolerable conditions” I was talking about.
As it is, Verizon is now doing quite well with the Android phones, especially the new HTC Incredible smart-phones, without the paying the King's ransom that Apple was asking before for their iPhone. Competition, and the free markets are wonderful things.

46 posted on 05/10/2010 3:25:04 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Smogger
It’s inevitable that Google will win it’s smartphone war against Apple. Phone manufaturers like free and Android is free.

If Android is free, how does Google make any money with it?

47 posted on 05/10/2010 3:25:20 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Swordmaker
“AT&T agreed to an all in one price for everything and agreed to spend the money to upgrade their system”

Look how much it was costing AT&T at the time.

“October 24, 2007 1:03 PM PDT
Piper Jaffray: AT&T paying Apple $18 per iPhone, per month

The exact details of AT&T's revenue-sharing agreement with Apple have not been disclosed, but one analyst thinks that over the two-year life of a user contract, the amount exceeds the actual price of the iPhone.

Silicon Alley Insider spotted a research note from Piper Jaffray’s Gene Munster estimating that Apple is receiving $18 per month for each iPhone subscriber, under the revenue-sharing agreement between the two companies. Apple has confirmed that such an agreement exists, but has not shared the details about exactly how much cash it's getting from the revenue AT&T makes on iPhone customers using the carrier's data network.
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iPhone users on AT&T's data network could be giving Apple as much as $18 a month under their revenue-sharing agreement.
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That would mean that over the life of a two-year contract, AT&T will pay Apple $432 per iPhone subscriber. Silicon Alley Insider adds the $400 in revenue per iPhone and uses iSuppli’s cost estimates to calculate a $565 profit per iPhone over a two-year period. I'm a little wary of those iSuppli numbers myself (they don't really account for things like research and development costs), but the exact number isn't really the point: Apple has a huge incentive to make sure iPhones stay on AT&T's network, even if Munster's numbers aren't perfect.”
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9803657-37.html

Apple was taking $400 from AT&T for the iPhone itself, as well as another approx $18 per month from AT&T for every single iPhone subscriber. No surprise Apple's profits just kept getting fatter. Verizon wasn't ready for that kind of servitude.

48 posted on 05/10/2010 3:41:13 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Republic of Texas

I have T-Mobile so mine is called Android but I’d rather have an iPhone...except for the AT&T problem. It’s handy but I don’t love it and it does wierd things - like shuffling my contact names and phone numbers. For instance an upholsterer I’ve been dealing with now shows up as my son.


49 posted on 05/10/2010 3:41:39 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: stripes1776
If Android is free, how does Google make any money with it?

Mobile search, which Google wants to control.

50 posted on 05/10/2010 3:42:23 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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