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PTSD diagnosis could appear on driver's licenses
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 9 May 2010 | Nancy Badertscher

Posted on 05/11/2010 12:13:33 AM PDT by Sarajevo

Some Georgians could soon be carrying a unique driver’s license – one that says they have post-traumatic stress disorder.

Lawmakers recently passed legislation that would allow current and former military to request the PTSD designation on their driver’s licenses.

The legislation, which has to be signed by the governor to become law, would likely make Georgia the first state with a driver’s license that denotes a specific health problem, other than poor eyesight.

Some veterans and law enforcement officials say they can’t image that many servicemen and servicewomen will want their PTSD diagnosis put on display when they present their driver’s licenses to cash a check, buy alcohol, board an airplane or face a traffic cop.

“Why would I want to put out there on my license – hey, I’m a nut job,” said Marvin Myers, president of the Georgia Vietnam Veterans Alliance Inc.

PTSD is an anxiety disorder that can occur after a person experiences or witnesses a traumatic event, like military combat, natural disaster or a physical or sexual assault.

Sen. Ron Ramsey (D-Decatur), the bill’s sponsor, said he sees the potential benefits and no downside.

“It is totally voluntary,” he said.

Ramsey said he had just finished speaking to a veteran’s group when he was approached by a former serviceman, who has PTSD and was worried that he might have a bad encounter with law enforcement.

“He said, ‘God forbid anybody put handcuffs on me. I’d go berserk’,” the senator said.

The veteran suggested a PTSD notation on driver’s licenses could help, Ramsey said.

“This is how it is supposed to work -- an ordinary citizen came up and said, ‘This is what I need’,” he said.

Sen. John Douglas (R-Social Circle), an Army veteran who co-sponsored the bill,  said a safer encounter could be the result.

“The police officer would know that a sudden move [by the motorist] wasn’t necessarily an offensive move,” Douglas said.

Ramsey's bill sailed through the General Assembly, despite attempts by some lawmakers to expand it to include other medical conditions. Feedback, was “nothing but positive,” Ramsey said.

Lea R. Flowers, an assistant professor in Georgia State University’s Department of Counseling & Psychological Services, said Ramsey’s bill has some positives in that it may raise awareness of PTSD and calls for strictly voluntary participation.

“But it could be a slippery slope,” she said. “Will we offer that for bipolar? Schizophrenia?”

The Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police didn’t take a stand on Ramsey’s bill as it moved through the Legislature, said Frank Rotondo, the organization’s executive director.

“It probably benefits for law enforcement to know that a person believes that, under stress, they can melt down,” he said.

The bill, which could become law July 1, would require a sworn statement from an MD or psychologist, verifying the service member’s diagnosis of PTSD. It also requires a waiver of liability for the release of the driver’s medical information.

The state Department of Drivers Services has yet to decide how the PTSD diagnosis would be displayed on the driver’s license, spokeswoman Susan Sports said.

The department currently offers an identification card for the disabled that has a wheelchair symbol and can include the cardholder’s medical information, Sports said.

“This ID is primarily used by the individuals to secure priority seating on buses, et cetera,” she said. “The ID is not for driving.”



TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: driverslicense; nutcase; ptsd

1 posted on 05/11/2010 12:13:33 AM PDT by Sarajevo
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To: Sarajevo
Sen. Ron Ramsey (D-Decatur), the bill’s sponsor, said he sees the potential benefits and no downside.

“It is totally voluntary,” he said.

For now.

2 posted on 05/11/2010 12:23:01 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Sarajevo; All

Good luck filling out the form on your next firearms purchase or for that matter continued gun ownership with PTSD stamped on your DL.


3 posted on 05/11/2010 12:24:09 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

That would just be the beginning.


4 posted on 05/11/2010 12:28:27 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Sarajevo

PTSD just doesn’t mean any stress causes a full blown panic attack. It usually takes a trigger to set it off. A person who had a bad expierence in a swimming pool will not have a problem being handcuffed. This is just about labeling people as unfit and therefore subject to abritrary rules.


5 posted on 05/11/2010 12:28:29 AM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Sarajevo

This is crazy.

Lot’s of folks with PTSD will no longer seek the help they may need, just to avoid creating a record.

Damn democrats, traitors all.


6 posted on 05/11/2010 12:50:34 AM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: Sarajevo
Sen. Ron Ramsey (D-Decatur), the bill’s sponsor, has already voluntarily surrendered his firearms. He is anxious for this pilot program to be implemented nationwide, and for the new Policy & Regulations to be chaptered into law.
7 posted on 05/11/2010 12:53:05 AM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: LukeL

It doesn’t even always mean a panic attack - it can make you avoid crowds, for one thing.


8 posted on 05/11/2010 12:54:04 AM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: Sarajevo

Big Brother is again, watching.


9 posted on 05/11/2010 1:23:27 AM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: Sarajevo
Some veterans and law enforcement officials say they can’t image that many servicemen and servicewomen will want their PTSD diagnosis put on display when they present their driver’s licenses to cash a check, buy alcohol, board an airplane or face a traffic cop.

“Why would I want to put out there on my license – hey, I’m a nut job,” said Marvin Myers, president of the Georgia Vietnam Veterans Alliance Inc.

Cops, known the US over for flying off the handle and drawing down (and occasionally blasting away) on anyone and everyone the think, could, might, will, has been or someday will be a threat them... yeah this is gonna go over well.

I'll be used as justification to separate them from their vehicle, slap them in cuffs, search them and their cars from "weapons" all the while interrogating them with the usual bullshit, who are you, where you coming from, where you going, are you a terrorist or militia member, blah, blah, blah...

Not to mention the state could use the admission to restrict them from owning and or carrying any type of weapons.

Nothing good will come from this.

10 posted on 05/11/2010 1:38:46 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: LukeL

No, it’s about labelling vets as crazy people and subject to arbitrary laws that affect only them.


11 posted on 05/11/2010 1:44:17 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Sarajevo
What a novel idea.

You know what would be better, though:

They could just adjust it and make it a very fashionable fashion accessory:


12 posted on 05/11/2010 2:06:21 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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Why don't we all just get ready for the V-chip and go quietly like sheep into the Brave New World Order our superiors have planned for us?

Sheesh, Boo Boo! I told you Mr. Ranger was watching us.

13 posted on 05/11/2010 3:27:50 AM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (President Zero, walking in the footsteps of Hugo Chavez)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
Why don't we all just get ready for the V-chip and go quietly like sheep into the Brave New World Order our superiors have planned for us?

Already been there. Done that. RFID tags: Big Brother in small packages (talking about washable RFID tags sewn into clothing)(from 2003)

14 posted on 05/11/2010 3:37:40 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Leave it to you to attack the police again. Are you out of jail yet?


15 posted on 05/11/2010 4:52:04 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing leftists and their fellow Defeatists want.)
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