[C19fan]

From the papers today, a Lib-Lab Losers coalition is looking more likely. Maybe the English should call the SNP bluff and offer a referendum on Scottish independence. The only thing propping up socialistic Scotland is English money. The main issue would be dividing up the North Sea oil and gas.

[The_Victor]

From the papers today, a Lib-Lab Losers coalition is looking more likely.

Somehow, it seems to me to be a lot of wishful thinking on the part of the British press.

[sauropod]

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[DM1]

This is a perfect example of the dangers of third parties
both Labor and the Lib Dems lost seats despite “CleggMania” and yet the LIb Dems get to play kingmaker and right now effectively propping up Labor.
who knows whats going to happen over there now

[Ulysse]

ping

[Verginius Rufus]

They are paying the price for Edward I’s conquest of Wales and for the Act of Union in 1707. Next stage: the United Kingdom of England and Northern Ireland. I suppose they would keep the Isle of Man too.

[GeronL]

England should have its own Parliament too.

Let the Labour-LibDem Coalition be in power when the debt crisis hits.

[McGavin999]

They need to turn Scotland loose. They have wanted their soverenty for centuries, give it to them.

[Buckeye McFrog]

you mean the same way that we’re eventually going to pay for a Losers Coalition of California and NY-NJ-New England??

[dfwgator]

"FREEDOM!"

[the scotsman]

1—We in Scotland should call the SNP’s bluff.

2—’Propping up’ is simplistic.

[the scotsman]

After tonight, this thread is moot...lol

[Churchillspirit]

No wonder the print press is dying...a Lab-Lib coalition is old news. Tonight's talks are between the Conservatives and the Lib-Dems. Labour is done.

Announcement expected late tonight or early on Wednesday.

[dfwgator]

I think Labor has a plot to turn Englishmen into Scotsmen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVbb6pZLfzU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPd9pVUwPYA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIogyKZ0b6k&feature=related

[NZerFromHK]

Ping!

Another issue not one has mentioned yet is the impact of the break-up of the United Kingdom will have on the Commonwealth. All the big 3 “Old Commonwealth” countries are to some degree set that the monarchy is to the the current monarch of the United Kingdom, even though the legal clauses state the institution is already repatriated. To some extent the Anglo-Celtic or English Canadian identity in each of the 3 countries is shaped by the common national identity of the United Kingdom on the countries’ early history as British, not English or Scottish or Irish individually, colonies. For example, in English-speaking Canada I don’t see the Scottish-descent Canadians really trying to pick up fights with English-descent Canadians, and they are proud of being English Canadians.

If the United Kingdom breaks up and independent Scotland continues to recognize Elizabeth II it is not that bad. But having seen Scottish Nationalists close hand, it wouldn’t surprise me they would decide to make a scene to publicly humiliate England as much as they can by wanting Franz Duke of Bavaria, the current Jacobite claimant, as the new King of Scotland. I wonder who would be the head of state in this case when the United Kingdom no longer exists?

A second thing is constitutionally speaking, the 3 countries all have the foundation based on the British nation, not to mention national identity, which I believe is particularly acute in the case of Canada as a country founded by two peoples, British on English Canada and French on French Canada. Does this need to be changed to 3 or more founding peoples if the original UK breaks up?

It may be a good start point to a conversation I suppose, and anyone could share their take?

[timestax]

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