Posted on 05/11/2010 4:50:23 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
SAM’s designed to defen SAM’s.
SAMSAM’s?
I think more of a layered defense. The Russians did a trial of the Pantsyr and the S-400 together in a live fire exercise. The S-400 missed the target but the Pantsyr took out the warhead.
wow.
While reading the brief, I could not believe that the S-400 missed(especially with all the radar equipment the S-400 has) and this puny missile system took out the warhead.
So, who’s their potential enemy, the Amish? Poland (interesting that the cream of Poland’s military was wiped out in the recent plane crash)? The Chechyan guerrillas’ air force (three gliders and a hot-air balloon)?
Red China? North Korea? Iran? Denmark?
Paranoia run amuck under the communist thugocracy of Putin and Medvedev.
I think they designed the system to be sold abroad.
And some sort of back up in case the other Russians missile systems fail.
Might be more agile in-flight
The Russians also use Tor M1 systems to protect their S-300’s and S-400’s.
The trick is that with weapons they have no enemies, and without weapons everyone and their dog would want a piece (that's how it played out in the past, at least - many European rulers took a stab at conquering Russia.)
So the question is like asking a police officer who is his enemy, since he wears a gun. He doesn't have any, and he'd like to keep it that way.
The USA is no different; not only nobody [sane] proposes to disarm, the country keeps working on new weapons. Many new designs are specifically constructed to fight wars as humanely as possible. Today a Predator may be deployed against a single hut; but back in the days of WWII several airplanes would have bombed a few square miles at and around the hut, killing everything that moves (and possibly missing the target.)
One area where the USA is behind is the demographic weapon that Mexico is deploying. None are so blind that don't want to see.
It tells us that their S-300 and S-400 are a piece of expensive Russian junk.
I don’t think so. I heard the latest patriot is based on an evaluation of S-300 USAF got in 1994. There are no 100% effective systems so I bet a single missed missile is not a big deal. Especially considering a fact S-400 is a part of more complex system which is actually worked.
A missed missile though can mean everything especially you are in the heat of battle.
But you are correct.
Read the purpose of the pairing of the S400 and the short range missiles ...the S400 is the big stick, with even a limited anti ballistic missile ability, and a highly effective anti aircraft capability. What shorter range missiles do is to protect the S400 from (say) JSOW and (high altitude launch) JDAMs (eg from a high alttude launch by a Raptor) that is targeting the S400. The Triumf (like the Patriot) cannot effectively target a bomb ...shorter range missiles like the Tor can.
Quite effective.
Not necessarily, the whole point of layered defences is to protect your high value target against attack at all altitudes and speeds. Pantsyr may be more effective at low altitude engagements, i.e. against helicopters.
It seems the S-400 failed when it missed the warhead and the Pantsyr destroyed.
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