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To: jamese777; MHGinTN; All

> "Since 2001 when the state went paperless, it is the ONLY official birth certificate of the state." ...

Jamese, why do you persist in telling these lies?

Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula - DHHL requires the Certificate, p 1 Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula - DHHL requires the Certificate, p 2 Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula - DHHL requires the Certificate, p 3

p.s. -- the Fight the Smears COLB miraculously reappeared after being taken off for nearly a month.
It seems they realized they caused more suspicion trying to hide it than to just leave it alone in the first place ...

306 posted on 05/12/2010 1:47:14 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2; jamese777
> "Since 2001 when the state went paperless, it is the ONLY official birth certificate of the state." ...



Little Jameeeseeee better take a re-look at her talking point again.

309 posted on 05/12/2010 1:50:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: BP2

WOW!! I had no idea that Barack Hussein Obama was applying to become an indigenous native Hawaiian.

Here’s what the state of Hawaii has to say, not me:
“Question: What is the state’s policy for issuing a “Certification of Live Birth” versus a “Certificate of Live Birth”? My first, second and fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children received certifications. Why the difference? The certificate contains more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier’s name and title; attendant’s name and title, etc. The certification has only the child’s name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth, mother’s maiden name, mother’s race, father’s name and father’s race. Why doesn’t the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and fifth children?

Answer: No, you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

And, it’s only available in electronic form.

Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.

“At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.

Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.

“The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests,” Okubo said.

Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”

“The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models,” she said.

Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state’s current certification of live birth “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”

The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year’s presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.

Asked about that document, Okubo said, “This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate.”
http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html


331 posted on 05/12/2010 2:23:30 PM PDT by jamese777
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