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To: fathers1
It is unfortunate that, due to Mother's blatant and calculated lies, the Child has been living with prospective adoptive parents and forming a bond with them and that relationship must now come to an end through no fault of the prospective adoptive parents.

Why must the relationship now end? Are adoptive parents not as good as bio parents?

Prosecute the mother for her fraud, but do not harm the child by removing it from who it considers to be its parents.

3 posted on 05/13/2010 12:30:08 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: Onelifetogive
Why must the relationship now end? Are adoptive parents not as good as bio parents?

Not if they are involved in stealing a child from it's father (no matter how mislead they may be)

Prosecute the mother for her fraud, but do not harm the child by removing it from who it considers to be its parents.

and kick the dad in the nuts for good measure as you steal his child.

The only thing we have in this world that lasts is our children. Those of us who want them should never have our kids ripped away from us (assuming of course that we are being good parents which most men in this situation are or would be)

I'm all for adoption in cases where the biological parent doesn't want the child. But in this case the bio parent DOES want the child.

8 posted on 05/13/2010 12:42:24 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Onelifetogive

Depending on the age of the child, it’s not going to harm the child near as much as it would harm the father...


10 posted on 05/13/2010 12:46:31 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Onelifetogive

So true. I believe both sperm and egg donors are selfish.


11 posted on 05/13/2010 12:47:50 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Onelifetogive

I agree. The judge should have ruled that the child should stay with his adoptive parents. Maybe the biological father should have been given visitation rights, but the child should have not been removed from his home and parents. And, yes, the mother should face criminal charges.

What a heartbreaking story. Imagine having your two-year-old child removed from your home after you and your spouse have been raising him since he was a day old. My youngest daughter is a bit over 1 and 1/2 years old and I’d flee the country rather than give her up if they found out that there was a mix-up at the hospital or something.


12 posted on 05/13/2010 12:49:12 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Onelifetogive

“Why must the relationship now end? Are adoptive parents not as good as bio parents?”

Not a biological father who fought tooth and nail to secure his child, no. If the adoptive parents truly loved the child, they would have set out to foster a relationship with the biological father during the years this matter was before the courts.


13 posted on 05/13/2010 12:50:10 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Onelifetogive

The child does have a father and that never changed.

You are right adoptive pares do NOT equal biological parents. It is no different than kidnapping and then saying the stealing people are better parents and therefore the theft should be ratified.

Adoption is a legal fiction created by statute. In a day when children are/were deemed property.

The state should never get involved in terminating parental rights via a court case founded on a lie.


16 posted on 05/13/2010 12:52:22 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Onelifetogive

The child must have been born in early 2009. Therefore, I think the child is young enough to not suffer too much from the dislocation from her adoptive parents.

If the child was 3 or 4 I would say the opposite.


26 posted on 05/13/2010 1:00:51 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Onelifetogive

If it was me and I was advising the father, I would recommend that he include the almost adoptive parents in the child’s life because I believe that that would be in the best interests of the child but the father has a right to know and raise his child.


28 posted on 05/13/2010 1:01:30 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Onelifetogive

“Prosecute the mother for her fraud, but do not harm the child by removing it from who it considers to be its parents.”

And what of the rights of the father? When exactly did he surrender those?


30 posted on 05/13/2010 1:02:06 PM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: Onelifetogive

Goodness has nothing to do with this. The biological father wants his child. That child is his. It’s extremely difficult for the adoptive parents, agreed, and for the child too.


34 posted on 05/13/2010 1:09:30 PM PDT by twigs
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To: Onelifetogive

In a case like this adoptive parents lose all rights to everything. I know a couple who lost a baby in the first 6 months when the Mom changed her mind.Fifteen years later and they have never seen her again.


58 posted on 05/13/2010 5:36:24 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Onelifetogive

The adoption contract needs to be consensual.


62 posted on 05/13/2010 6:05:18 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Onelifetogive

Are adoptive parents not as good as bio parents?

Not until bio rights are terminated, which did not happen.

I have four adopted within two weeks of birth children. Until parental rights are terminated, and the adoption is finalized , the kid is not yours.


71 posted on 05/13/2010 7:13:12 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("A corrupt society has many laws" - Tacitus)
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To: Onelifetogive
Prosecute the mother for her fraud, but do not harm the child by removing it from who it considers to be its parents.

So much for that idea.

And to think that people actually asked my wife and I why we traveled thousands of miles to Russia to adopt a child who'd had his parents' rights terminated almost two years earlier, instead of adopting in the US.

My wife and I lived in Ann Arbor during the Baby Jessica case, and we took it as a shot across the bow when we decided to adopt. Undoubtedly many more people will see this case in a similar light.

74 posted on 05/14/2010 3:33:16 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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