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Peterson: Congress should 'look at' banning caloric pop from food stamp purchases
www.minnpost.com ^ | 05/14/10 | Derek Wallbank

Posted on 05/14/2010 5:55:37 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

WASHINGTON — Rep. Collin Peterson on Thursday suggested Congress consider banning caloric soft drinks from being purchased with food stamps as a way to address obesity.

According to multiple reports, Peterson said the proposed ban is "clearly is something we need to look at," though he added that he neither supports nor opposes the suggestion at this point.

Peterson's comments followed a House Agriculture Committee meeting, in which a panelist suggested the embargo. The hearing was one of many Peterson is holding as an early preview of the 2012 Farm Bill, which includes the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

The exact suggestion Peterson was responding to, as reported by Reuters' Charles Abbott:

Wellesley College professor and food expert Rob Paarlberg suggested the ban during a hearing to review the 2008 farm law, which includes food stamps as well as crop subsidies. Food stamps help low-income people buy food. One in eight Americans receives food stamps.

The anti-hunger program accounts for 40 percent of Agriculture Department spending and outweighs crop subsidy and land stewardship spending of $10 billion this year.

"I would argue caloric soda should be made ineligible for purchase under SNAP, like tobacco and alcohol," said Paarlberg, using the new name for food stamps, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. He later said sugary sodas are "a huge part of the obesity problem."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: foodstamps; obesity; peterson; pop
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1 posted on 05/14/2010 5:55:37 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

Now that is an idea worth considering. I often see food stamps buying more soda than I can afford.


2 posted on 05/14/2010 5:56:53 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Elect Chuck Purgason, US Senate, Missouri! http://www.purgasonforsenate.com/)
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To: TornadoAlley3

HA! Like to see ‘em try! This Congress appears to fear the people in no way (except of course an angry mob of Pepsi or Mountain Dew-deprived welfare recipients rioting in the streets!)


3 posted on 05/14/2010 5:57:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TornadoAlley3

Should just go back to “free food” handouts. Direct distribution of foodstuffs. Worked great for us when my father lost his job back in the early ‘60s.


4 posted on 05/14/2010 5:57:37 AM PDT by catman67
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To: TornadoAlley3

not to mention...what about our vaunted Ethanol Lobby of Corn Farmers and Grain Belt Congresscritters? You start shutting down demand for HFCS and there is gonna be HELL to PAY!


5 posted on 05/14/2010 5:58:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: o_zarkman44

Is that on Michelle Obummers list for Obesity! It should be. Soda is nothing but wasted calories and should be banned from food stamp as should twinkies.


6 posted on 05/14/2010 5:59:24 AM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I assumed it already wasn’t allowed. Does this mean that food stamps can be used to purchase chips, ice cream and candy, too? Good grief.


7 posted on 05/14/2010 5:59:47 AM PDT by Spudx7
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To: o_zarkman44

Where will it stop? No cereal? No boxed or canned foods? Fresh fruit, veggies and bagged beans only?

Food police


8 posted on 05/14/2010 6:00:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Spudx7

Yup. They are considered food items.


9 posted on 05/14/2010 6:02:24 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: o_zarkman44

Well if that’s a good idea, here’s a better one:

1 fresh and dried fruit, and nuts

2 fresh veggies

3 unprocessed, packaged fresh or frozen meats

4 loaves of fresh bread

Nothing else.


10 posted on 05/14/2010 6:03:03 AM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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To: GeronL

If you are on welfare getting food stamps then tough titty said the kitty. Get a frigging job, then you can purchase whatever you want.


11 posted on 05/14/2010 6:03:21 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: TornadoAlley3; Little Bill
Meanwhile, steak and lobster are perfectly fine. I see shopping carts full of that stuff and the like on the first weekend of the month, paid for with EBT cards, pushed out to near-new "dualie" trucks, then hear the same people bitch about how they're not making it because they're not given "enough."

Whatever happened to the old expression, "Whoever shall not work, neither shall he eat?"
12 posted on 05/14/2010 6:03:56 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: Spudx7

You have to have worked in a grocery store at some point to believe it. You can generally spot a Food Stamp recipient even before they open their purse, because the cart is overflowing with pop, Twinkies, Ding-Dongs, Ho-Ho’s, potato chips, etc. That and every cut of meat which people who actually work for a living can’t afford. Not a tomato or a head of lettuce to be found anywhere. If you manage a store one of your challenges is to get your cashiers to stop making snyde remarks in front of such (and I use this term loosely....) customers.

That being said, I am not in favor of a Federal Food Police.


13 posted on 05/14/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: o_zarkman44

That’s the insidious nature of having someone else in charge of paying for your “needs”...

not only do THEY get to control what you can have,
it makes people like you and me tend to justify that control
because we don’t approve of what it’s being spent on.

Same with healthcare control.


14 posted on 05/14/2010 6:05:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: o_zarkman44
No mention of banning 'soda' only 'caloric' soda - as if sugar is worse than artificial sweeteners.

NO. ..just get the Gov out of the 'food line'. These kind of 'good intentions' lead to hell. We know that.

15 posted on 05/14/2010 6:05:37 AM PDT by cricket (We ARE the Truman Show)
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To: GeronL

I actually have no problem with gov’t restrictions on things when the money is coming from the public coffers. If people are going to insist on having other people support them, they should accept whatever guidelines are imposed upon them. Might make welfare and other gov’t programs less attractive.

And no, I don’t condemn anyone who has to accept public aid on a temporary basis, to get them through a rough patch. But if you make it too easy and comfortable, it becomes a lifestyle.


16 posted on 05/14/2010 6:06:05 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: Spudx7

yes


17 posted on 05/14/2010 6:06:05 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: TornadoAlley3
They'll just trade them...there's no point to it.

And guess what...milk has calories, too.

18 posted on 05/14/2010 6:06:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I’d like to see soda banned from food stamps but for a completely different reason. Take away soda, sweets, salt, potato chip type snacks etc. Piss these leaches off and see if any decide to work for a paycheck!


19 posted on 05/14/2010 6:06:31 AM PDT by albie
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To: OCCASparky
"Whoever shall not work, neither shall he eat?"

2 Thess 3:10.

A Christian precept, and therefore, to be rejected in "post-Christian" America.

20 posted on 05/14/2010 6:06:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
That being said, I am not in favor of a Federal Food Police.

Wise judgment! Who thinks they'd stop at food stamp purchases? ;-)

21 posted on 05/14/2010 6:07:39 AM PDT by maryz
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To: TornadoAlley3

When Pepsico spent untold millions of dollars changing their logo to resemble the Obama “Hope and Change” icon, somehow I can’t see where this is ever gonna happen.


22 posted on 05/14/2010 6:08:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TornadoAlley3
How about the only thing you should be allowed to buy with food stamps is milk, eggs and grain in bulk?

OK, I'll include fruit and veggies too.

23 posted on 05/14/2010 6:09:21 AM PDT by Tribune7 (It is immoral to claim the tea parties to be racist)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Amazing.


24 posted on 05/14/2010 6:10:02 AM PDT by Spudx7
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To: TornadoAlley3
I would argue caloric soda should be made ineligible for purchase under SNAP

This is ironic. They want to remove choice when people select food products, but they want to allow choice when it comes to abortions.

If they're successful doing this, it seems to me a precedent would be established for reversing Roe v Wade.

25 posted on 05/14/2010 6:10:17 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The mighty zero, obama,does not warrant the respect necessary for his name to be capitalized.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I heard a politically correct diet dictator on FOX yesterday saying that the obesity problem was mostly a poor or disadvantaged problem. I thought the same thing as Patterson - prohibit food stamps from buying junk food. That way, the people remain free, and the obesity among the one-a-month crowd is corrected.
If the once-a-monthers are going to sell their souls to the Devil, then they're going to have to pay their union dues with a pound of flesh - literally.
26 posted on 05/14/2010 6:10:48 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: MrB

I agree 100%.

The government should get out of the food business completely and all people’s food choices will once again reflect economic reality. People might actually learn how to cook rather than push a microwave button.

People on the government food dole should not be buying convenience anyhow. In reality, they have more time on hand to prepare meals from scratch than working people.


27 posted on 05/14/2010 6:10:58 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Elect Chuck Purgason, US Senate, Missouri! http://www.purgasonforsenate.com/)
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To: Tribune7

I believe the government under nobama has already begun the process of making us like North Korea. They have a plan to take care of the “peoples” excess and fat children. With the economy in eventual shambles we will be eating grass and tree bark. Problem solved. nobama is a genius. Pure genius.


28 posted on 05/14/2010 6:12:09 AM PDT by hal ogen ($10 (I think) amounts through the internet from all over the world.)
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To: Tribune7

I know legal immigrants from India who go to Sams Club and buy 25 lb. bags of rice. With that and a few vegetables and spices, they can live on it for half a year. (generally they save the rest of their money and end up buying a business within a couple of years)


29 posted on 05/14/2010 6:12:11 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MrB

Yeah, and we were also told Obama was the “post-partisan” president. Look where that got us. I’ll “cling bitterly to my guns and religion”, thanks all the same.


30 posted on 05/14/2010 6:13:34 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: TornadoAlley3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; genetic homophobe; ...
I honestly didn't know they can buy soda with food stamps. Idiots! I know there are sugary cereals they cannot buy with food stamps because I see the new immigrants that cannot read English holding up the express line at my food store.

At the same time they wanted to put a federal tax on our soda to pay for Health Reform. Idiots #2

31 posted on 05/14/2010 6:13:41 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Scotsman will be Free

About 4x’s a year my wife and daughters drive to Pinehurst, NC to see their Granny. We pass the section 8 projects on the way in. Every time we go we place bets on whether or not these same 4 people are sitting on the front porch, not working. We always pass by on a Thursday or Friday about noon. 3 out of 4 times, there they are! In their 20’s and 30’s just sitting. It’s a great illustration to my kids on the “wonders” of hand outs! The complex is called “Optimist Apartments” too! Right next to “Optimist Field” which is always empty. Sitting on the porch wears a fellow out.


32 posted on 05/14/2010 6:14:11 AM PDT by albie
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To: o_zarkman44

That isn’t the point. The point is the government will control what people eat. Are you really okay with that?


33 posted on 05/14/2010 6:15:01 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ncfool

Then why not just ban them outright?


34 posted on 05/14/2010 6:15:39 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: TornadoAlley3

Good!


35 posted on 05/14/2010 6:16:00 AM PDT by fml
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To: TornadoAlley3

I have a friend who is a clerk in a food store. She said those with gub’ment food cards buy the expensive crackers, chocolates, etc. that she can’t afford to buy. So much for subsidies.


36 posted on 05/14/2010 6:16:19 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“except of course an angry mob of Pepsi or Mountain Dew-deprived welfare recipients rioting in the streets!”

Nothing to fear, they’d give out quick without all that sugar and caffeine.


37 posted on 05/14/2010 6:16:25 AM PDT by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

No stamps for Nehi Grape Soda? None for Kools cigarettes? What’s next- none for Barbecue Potato Chips?


38 posted on 05/14/2010 6:17:18 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I totally agree, but all those corporations getting subsidies should face the same thing. Their CEO’s should eat nothing but raw veggies.


39 posted on 05/14/2010 6:17:48 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: PLMerite

this has all the makings of a classic Democrat Pinch Bill (propose some draconian regulation and then milk the Soda, Snack Food and Fast Food industries for campaign cash in order to keep the Grim Reaper away from their door). Just like the deals Obama cut with GE and Big Pharma.


40 posted on 05/14/2010 6:19:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: From The Deer Stand

Government handouts breed resentment of our fellow human beings... as I believe they are intended to do at some level.


41 posted on 05/14/2010 6:20:49 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Hey, I have a better idea.

Congress should 'look at' banning all food stamp purchases

42 posted on 05/14/2010 6:21:48 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: ncfool

Cigarettes, beer, and ice cream too.


43 posted on 05/14/2010 6:22:55 AM PDT by sniper63 (I am the leader of the TEA Party, I, myself am the leader of me, myself for I am the TEA Party!)
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To: sickoflibs
I honestly didn't know they can buy soda with food stamps.

Working families who are paying for it all can't feed their families anywhere near that well. Next time you're in a grocery store, hang out a while and watch for a food stamp recipient (they'll use a government debit card), and take a look at the bounty they have in their cart. You'll be shocked. I don't remember the last time I could afford a standing rib roast, prepared pies, top of the line frozen vegetables, and cases of Pepsi like that.
While you're at it, notice their professionally manicured nails, designer clothing, and salon hair styles.
The tax payers are getting fleeced - big time.

44 posted on 05/14/2010 6:23:22 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: TornadoAlley3
When you eat goobermint chit, you eat the chit they give ya.

Try explaining that to one of the "i'm gettin' over" class and you get a less than blank look.

45 posted on 05/14/2010 6:27:12 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: o_zarkman44
There have been a few times when my mom has purchased food for some of the low-income families she works with. She only does it if they are out of all types of funding for the month and she knows they are trying to be good parents. She usually brings them a cut up fryer chicken, bag of potatoes and some canned vegetables, things that will last for a few meals. It never fails, the mother will look at the chicken and potatoes and ask, “What do I do with these?”
46 posted on 05/14/2010 6:28:04 AM PDT by Spudx7
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To: TornadoAlley3

Ban Food Stamps. They are illegally traded for booze, prostitutes, and cash.
Open commodity stores where nutritious foods would be given to the poor to be cooked at home...no Sara Lee cakes, Cokes, chips etc. Obesity would be halted in its tracks.
If the government is telling us what to eat, it should only pay for caloric necessities, not fattening frills, in their feeding programs.


47 posted on 05/14/2010 6:29:18 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
If people are going to insist on having other people support them, they should accept whatever guidelines are imposed upon them. Might make welfare and other gov’t programs less attractive.

Bears repeating.
Here's a take -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMnIY7NADvk

48 posted on 05/14/2010 6:29:54 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: o_zarkman44

Add cookies, chips, and candy to the list, and go back to the old food stamp coupons with NO CASH BACK! They swipe their cards when they purchase food and get $20 in cash, then turn around and buy cigs, beer, and lottery tickets with the money.


49 posted on 05/14/2010 6:30:11 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: TornadoAlley3

you should only be able to buy the staples with food stamps, just enought to keep you alive.


50 posted on 05/14/2010 6:30:36 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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