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Ex-Scientologist Reveals Details Behind 'Dangerous Cult
PopEater ^ | Mike Hess

Posted on 05/14/2010 9:45:04 AM PDT by Shimmer1

Most people know very little about Scientology aside from the fact that Tom Cruise, John Travolta and other celebrities are a part of it, and that it's had its fair share of controversy over the years. A new book is looking to pull back the curtain on the mysterious religion founded by L. Ron Hubbard, and the author certainly knows her stuff. Amy Scobee is a former Scientologist who was in the church for more than two decades, and worked in the all-important Celebrity Centers portion of the organization. In her just-released book, 'Scientology: Abuse at the Top,' Scobee details all of the troubling things she saw that made her flee what she once called her trusted religion, but now refers to as a "dangerous cult." Scobee spoke exclusively to PopEater over e-mail about her shocking book, her time with Tom Cruise and other Scientology bigwigs, and the (her words) brainwashing, systematic violence and slave labor camps she saw during her 27 years there.

(Excerpt) Read more at popeater.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cults; scientology; sharronangle
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To: MsLady
I think you're right, I did.

Among the reasons:

Mostly it was internal inconsistencies, The stated goal is to 'clear the planet', yet at that time the already sky-high rates were going up at the rate of 10% per month. If it's ruinously expensive for a well paid American, how is an Indian peasant going to afford it?

It is a fundamental tenant that you never tell the PC (pre-clear) what incidents to run, yet that is precisely what happens on upper levels.

There was also a policy letter called "Jokers and Degraders" that essentially said that anyone with a sense of humor with regards to scientology should be declared a suppressive person and expelled. When that came out I knew it was only a matter of time before that happened to me (as anyone who knows me can attest!). I decided better to leave in my own time and under my own terms.

21 posted on 05/14/2010 12:07:15 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 477 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Shimmer1

Scientology a cult? This is newsworthy? Who doesn’t know that?


22 posted on 05/14/2010 12:13:12 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Every time a liberal whines, an angel gets his wings.)
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To: null and void

Good for you!!! You saw the inconsistence and the abuse and were honest enough with yourself. So many blindly continue to follow, it’s truly sad. I couldn’t live under that kind of suppression. It’s like walking on egg shells, one false move and.....How in the world do they ever get converts??? They must lie through their teeth until the hook someone in.


23 posted on 05/14/2010 12:14:35 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
I’ve read they treat their celebrities different then they do the little people.

They also know all of the celebrities' dirty little secrets.

24 posted on 05/14/2010 12:17:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Yes I suppose they do. Blackmail is really ugly, but, I suppose that’s how they keep many converts quiet.


25 posted on 05/14/2010 12:26:08 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: null and void; MsLady

null and void still buys the Scientology kool-aide.

It’s just the leadership that’s bad in Scientology according to this thinking.

Sort of like Communism is not a bad system, it’s just the wrong people running it.


26 posted on 05/14/2010 3:31:52 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: MsLady; D-fendr

Please forgive D-fender.

He thinks that if one recognizes that Blitzkrieg is an effective combat technique, one must be a full blown Nazi.


27 posted on 05/14/2010 8:03:43 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 477 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void; MsLady

Yes, if one still touts Scientology “technique” one still, as I put it, still buys the Scientology kool-aide.

Not one to look to for sound advice on the cult.


28 posted on 05/14/2010 8:48:48 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: MsLady

Me too. But they suck money from all of them.


29 posted on 05/15/2010 4:26:07 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Freedom is not free)
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To: null and void

I have to agree with you on that one null and void.


30 posted on 05/15/2010 5:30:24 AM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: null and void

The difference is you believe the Scientology blitz, in your analogy, is good for people.

Correct me if I’m wrong.


31 posted on 05/15/2010 6:30:22 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Dunno. In the long run was “Shock and Awe” good for Iraq? Or was Iraq better served under Saddam?

- or -

Cutting people bad.
Surgery good.

- or -

Cooking good.
Arson bad.


32 posted on 05/15/2010 7:10:28 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 478 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

How about a straight answer?


33 posted on 05/15/2010 7:26:47 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

I don’t think you are capable of understanding a straight answer.

I gave you a pretty clear one last time we crossed paths.


34 posted on 05/15/2010 7:29:32 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 478 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void; MsLady

The answer was “yes.”

Dissembling and trying to avoid that answer speaks volumes.

You can’t truly speak against Scientology if you still believe in their methods. I believe that’s false advertising.


35 posted on 05/15/2010 7:35:56 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

I think you just proved my point.

Good day.


36 posted on 05/15/2010 7:54:09 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 478 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

If you don’t deny it, it’s not your point that’s proven.

One who believes in Scientology is a Scientologist, whether they currently belong to the “Church” or not.


37 posted on 05/15/2010 7:58:56 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Shimmer1
Interesting series of talks by Amy Scobee on youtube.
38 posted on 05/15/2010 8:03:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: D-fendr
To the same degree that one who supports American weather and communications satellites must, just MUST, be a Nazi because our space program is base on Nazi rockets, and we even used Nazi German scientists to develop it.

I hope, but doubt it will ever happen, that your hatred (which BTW, I get!) of scientology becomes tempered enough that you can actually see it for what it is: a desperately flawed organization, with thousands of techniques to forward its goals, a few of which are actually useful, and most of which are not useful, and many that are flat out evil and dangerous not only to the practitioner, but to the surrounding environment.

Please stop insisting that I must throw the baby out with the bath water, just to meet your high standards.

I have no interest in, nor motivation to become unreasoningly hateful enough to be on your level.

39 posted on 05/15/2010 8:11:08 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 478 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Shimmer1
Lots of info here....all of it creepy

LOL - great line.

40 posted on 05/15/2010 8:12:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (Americans..speak of capitalism's glories(rather)than of socialism's greatness. Elena Kagan (thesis))
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