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Municipal Bonds: Derailed
SmartMoney via Fidelity.com ^ | May 15, 2010 | Russell Pearlman

Posted on 05/15/2010 9:11:52 PM PDT by mlocher

It looked like the closest thing you could get to a sure bet — even in a city full of one-armed bandits. The state of Nevada planned to build a sleek, automated monorail that would ferry millions of tourists up and down the famed Las Vegas Strip. And they were funding it by selling more than $600 million in municipal bonds — some of them paying a hefty 7.5 percent in interest. With AAA ratings, they were the very definition of “safe” muni bonds.

But something funny happened on the way to the casino. Fewer tourists came to Vegas, and those who did weren’t up for a train ride; the monorail brought in far less revenue than expected. The nonprofit monorail agency filed for bankruptcy-court protection earlier this year. As for investors, not only have their interest payments dried up — the project’s bankruptcy attorney confirms that it won’t make its next payment, on July 1 — but they could lose almost all of their principal. The stranded buyers include top fund companies like New York–based DWS Investments. Its $6 million stake was a tiny fraction of its $1.6 billion DWS Scudder Strategic High Yield Tax Free fund, but manager Phil Condon still seems flummoxed. After all, such a disaster in a highly-rated municipal bond is almost unheard of. “We’re not perfect,” Condon says.

Neither, it turns out, are muni bonds. A once-stable class of investments built on the nation’s roads, sewers and schools is beginning to look as shaky as, well, many of the nation’s roads, sewers and schools. In recent months, of course, investors have seen apocalyptic headlines about all kinds of government-issued bonds — starting with those from Iceland and Greece, foreign nations stuck with tremendous debt and nowhere near the revenue to pay it off.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: default; investment; munibonds
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Not to worry. Munis will soon be backed by the full faith of the United States Government.
1 posted on 05/15/2010 9:11:52 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: mlocher

Well, that’s good enough for me!/s


2 posted on 05/15/2010 9:31:36 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: mlocher
nobody wants to ride a f'ing train except people from the northeast that are smarter than everybody else and like being packed into cattle cars with strangers that can mug them and give them the smell and Gestalt of the 'urban' environment.

Just another way of taking your freedom.... they tell you when you can go and how far you can go.

They always loose money and the only ones that love them are the parasite unions and their bosses of the nipple.

3 posted on 05/15/2010 9:38:04 PM PDT by erman (Vote Republican or vote for the traitor's party- your choice.)
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To: Willie Green

Are you part of this mess?


4 posted on 05/15/2010 9:41:22 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("You cannot defeat an enemy you will not define.")
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To: erman
...nobody wants to ride a f'ing train except people from the northeast...

I'm a former native New Yorker (born in Brooklyn) and even I can't see any purpose for a monorail on the Vegas strip.

When my wife and I were there we'd walk the entire length of the strip up and down 5 times in a day. What's a monorail for?

It seems that a monorail would be counter productive in that you'd miss a lot of hot-spots being that so many of the kool places are bunched up together.

An FYI as an aside; coming from an area where public transportation is ubiquitous only causes one to despise it, not desire it.

5 posted on 05/15/2010 9:57:58 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: mlocher

Thank the One you have been waiting for....


6 posted on 05/15/2010 10:13:50 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: AAABEST

In the summer?

Personally, I won’t go the Vegas in the summer.

Kinda like going to Palm Beach in August.

Why?


7 posted on 05/15/2010 10:15:40 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: AAABEST

Maybe the did the monorail all wrong. Being Vegas, perhaps they should have theme-parked the monorail; like how about the “Taking of Pelham 123” monorail? That might be worth riding.


8 posted on 05/15/2010 10:16:18 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: mlocher

The writer of this article is acting surprised that municipal bonds are not a sure thing! Incredible.


9 posted on 05/16/2010 1:57:55 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Vendome
Kinda like going to Palm Beach in August.

Glad you threw in the word "kinda" cause nothing is as bad as Palm Beach in August.

10 posted on 05/16/2010 1:59:22 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: gunsequalfreedom

During the 1990’s and 2000’s, most companies gave up defined benefit pension plans, shifting to 401K plans where workers who chose to participate in the plan self directed their investments. While most of these plans included some kind of employer match, over the past two years many companies have ended the practice of matching worker contributions. Essentially we’ve gone from a system where a large segment of the private workforce had company pensions to where most workers in private industry are on their own to provide for retirement. At the same time most public sector workers have defined benefit pension plans ultimately guaranteed by the taxpayer.

The retirement investment choices available to those of us in the private sector have risk and most of the investment products are marketed by Wall Street and banks. Over the past three years we’ve seen the financial markets collapse due to greed and corruption, as well as government bailouts of Wall Street. We now know the ratings agencies who supposedly provided assessments of investment risk were in bed with the Wall Street firms issuing the securities they were rating.

While true conservatives support the concept of free markets, millions of our fellow citizens no longer have faith in free market capitalism. They’ve seen greed and corruption on Wall Street and in the banking sector rewarded while they’ve been left holding the bag with collapsing real estate prices, loss of value in the stock market, and huge increases in government debt to bail out Wall Street which will mean higher taxes. People are concerned about survival today and in retirement. They now perceive markets not to be “free” but to be a big Ponzi scheme managed by Wall Street an government to defraud them.

Having now learned to fear the equity market, people are flocking to government bonds. When that market collapses, there will be no “safe” investments for people to preserve their savings. Remember, average citizens putting money in government bonds or bank CD’s are not trying to make a huge gain through speculations, they are trying to preserve principal to support themselves through old age. In other words they are trying to be self reliant, not wards of the state. The coming collapse of government securities will be the last nail in the coffin — they will become economically dependent on their masters in Washington.

Most of my associates in their 50’s are at their wits end as to where to put their savings to protect their principal. They know the equity markets are rigged. They have no faith in the banking system. They fear the collapse of the dollar and US government securities.

I doubt most responsible people expect any investment to be a “sure thing”. They will diversify their investments and stick to conservative investments that are perceived to be low risk. Unfortunately our financial system has become so distorted and corrupted, it is no longer possible for the rational conservative investor to assess risk on almost any investment. The financial system itself no longer enhances economic freedom, it has morphed into a rigged game, managed by the elites for the purpose of siphoning off billions from the public to inordinately benefit a few power institutions allied with the government. It is difficult for anyone who has any awareness of the underlying causes of the recent crisis, as well as the role of our government in protecting the players, to have any faith in free enterprise as practiced in the United States today.

Free markets can work when there is information readily available for the individual to assess risk. It does not appear the individual investor today has access to the information needed to properly assess risk and the individual investor knows she/he will not be bailed out by the government, unlike the financial institutions marketing investment vehicles. It seems the individual citizen and investor in today’s market bears the greatest risk in any transaction.


11 posted on 05/16/2010 5:31:41 AM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: B4Ranch

It’s Bush’s fault.


12 posted on 05/16/2010 5:38:43 AM PDT by Willie Green
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Pflr


13 posted on 05/16/2010 8:06:41 AM PDT by crghill (You can't put a condom on your soul. I'm an anti-antinomian.)
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To: Willie Green
No, it is the EEEEEevvvvil Bankers fault! They made the politicans take the money to build their useless “legacy” projects! /s
14 posted on 05/16/2010 8:09:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: Willie Green

LOL


15 posted on 05/16/2010 10:01:01 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("You cannot defeat an enemy you will not define.")
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To: Soul of the South

Normally when I see a long post as you have provided I don’t always read every word. Yours is the exception. I enjoyed every word. Very good post. Thanks.


16 posted on 05/16/2010 10:02:33 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Soul of the South

I don’t know if our plan for retirement has been the smartest, but we made a decision about 6 years ago to become totally debt free. We are there. Took sacrafice.

Once we got rid of all the interest we were paying, our savings rebuilt quickly and now have far surpassed what we had ever had.

We have never invested in the stock market and likely never will. We do not, however, have a plan to protect our savings against inflation - under the mattress does not pay interest but then again neither do the banks.

On the subject of cities and employee pensions, it would not be a problem so long as the cities expense into current year budgets the out-year obligations. I suspect many cities have not done that and instead have treated pension obligations as unfunded liabilities or rely on a state public employee pension system.


17 posted on 05/16/2010 10:14:36 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: gunsequalfreedom

That is no joke. I went once in July..... Whoa! Never again.

November through March is the only time.


18 posted on 05/16/2010 10:37:20 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: NVDave

A penny for .....


19 posted on 05/16/2010 10:41:17 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion Stops A Beating Heart)
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To: Vendome
I prefer the dry heat of the U.S. Southwest. Temps at 115 to 120 can get to be a bit much...that is unless you have a pool handy.


20 posted on 05/16/2010 10:44:44 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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