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To: hiredhand
You were saying ...

This nation will never, ever be the same after that if it happens.

I think you're talking about an armed "revolution" -- as opposed to -- a total outright collapse of the entire civil infrastructure and governing capability and sustaining power of this country. Those would be two different things, and I think they would be handled in different ways.

But, either way, I believe you're right... this nation would never be the same afterwards, because basically there would be no more nation, and it would never come together again.

Either one of those scenarios (the armed revolution or the societal collapse) would mean the end to the Constitution and the end to any kind of reasonable and good standard of living and the end to most all amenities that people normally enjoy today, no matter how poor they are. It's the end of it all... no matter how it turns out...

It's definitely not what one should be aiming for ...

408 posted on 05/18/2010 9:53:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Actually, even though I didn't express it very well... I think it's entirely possible that we suffer a financial collapse followed by an armed insurrection. I say this because too many people are learning that the Gov't orchestrated the collapse. They were complicit. Yet, they profited handsomely by it. Then, instead of actually doing something that would make it BETTER, they told us that they would fix it. But when we overwhelmingly told them "NO", they took our money anyway and did the very thing we knew would wreck the nation financially. Too many people are aware of this now, and more are learning the facts behind it.

Also think about this... the pattern of this administration fixing things always drives those "if-then" people into the other direction. It's as if our current leadership has some innate ability to make exactly the wrong decision in a way that maximizes damage.

When this nation falls, people who lose everything will be a majority, and they'll be looking for blood. I believe a financial collapse (which we are witnessing NOW) and armed civil conflict are intertwined and quite possibly unavoidable at this point. The only hope is what we're just beginning to see unravel, which is the replacement of poor leaders in office with good ones. If this fails, the future situation will be bleak indeed.

I personally don't have a lot of high hopes for the situation as it stands, in spite of conservative hopefulls and the encouraging news in the run-up to the November elections. The left has an established pattern of fighting over hanging chads, dimples, and dents for months, or counting and recounting...dragging the vote through the courts...until they finally get the numbers they need, whether the voters were dead or alive, present or not. The left won't part with power easily. I'm not so sure that a simple vote of the citizenry is going to pull it off. They've got more power now than they've ever had and they're not going to part with it easily. But having said that, there is a LOT of anger against D.C. It's visible, discernible, audible, and seems to be on the verge of violence. It won't take much to push it that way. D.C. should observe these things and be very, very careful.
412 posted on 05/18/2010 10:33:45 PM PDT by hiredhand
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