Documents, Including Letter To Ratzinger, Sought In Priest Sex Abuse Lawsuit

Courant.com ^ | May 18, 2010 | DAVE ALTIMARI

[HarleyD]

Some FReeper you are that doesn't believe in the 4th Amendment.

I don't think it's unreasonable for Christians to turn over papers if asked. Didn't our Lord Jesus say, "If they ask for your coat, give them your cloak as well."? What is there to hide? Seems to me someone is resisting a higher command.

[RnMomof7]

Ohh yea people wanted the priests just transfered so another family could experience the same pain

Do they think we are all dumb?

[count-your-change]

The Boston diocese opposed lifting a court imposed seal on church records but a judge, a Catholic judge, did so in 2002 and it was revealed that settlements had been made in secrecy for over 100 priests.

It was the diocese that wanted the records kept confidential.

[count-your-change]

“Produce all those many letters from men who “admitted they lied.”

Waiting patiently but not endlssly.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Great example, Harley.

[wmfights]

Most of us didn't know the church in Rome believed such errors until we learned from FR RCs themselves as to what the papacy preaches.

Spot on!

[Forest Keeper]

Question, if you get a subpoena for some document for a civil case, can’t you challenge it?

Sure, a party can object to discovery items on such issues as relevancy, vagueness, or that it concerns privileged information. The court will then rule. In this case, though, since the alleged molester is dead, claims of privilege will be more problematic. It will certainly give the appearance of the Church hiding some wrongdoing of its own, rather than protecting the reputation of a dead man, etc.

[Quix]

Proddies are used to stereotypic

outrageous willfully blind,

false witness accusations and

running and hiding from the truth

posted by

those of the Papist bigots of the Vatican affiliated rabid cliques hereon.

[Quix]

FAR TOOOOOOOO TRUE AND THEN SOME.

And the CIRCLE THE WAGONS vs

candidly stating facts and cleaning house

. . . is sooooooooooooooo typical

of the INSTITUTION FOR MANY CENTURIES.

[Quix]

TOOO TRUE, imho.

Thx.

[Forest Keeper]

Soooo, how many Catholic denominations are there now?

According to Wiki there are over 5,000 different Catholic denominations as of the new rule. Once again, so much for "always and everywhere believed".

[HarleyD]

5,000!!! They’re catching up. We Protestants better get on the stick. ;O)

[wmfights]

According to Wiki there are over 5,000 different Catholic denominations as of the new rule. Once again, so much for "always and everywhere believed".

LOL, nice to start the day with a laugh.

It is funny how the more you study these things the more you find the opposite is true. It has led to some great Bible study.

[frogjerk]

I don't think it's unreasonable for Christians to turn over papers if asked. Didn't our Lord Jesus say, "If they ask for your coat, give them your cloak as well."? What is there to hide? Seems to me someone is resisting a higher command.

Matthew 5:38-42: You have heard that it has been said: An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. But I say to you not to resist evil: but if one strike you on your right cheek, turn to him also the other: And if a man will contend with you in judgment, and take away your coat, let go your cloak also unto him. And whosoever will force you one mile, go with him other two. Give to him that asks of you, and from him that would borrow of you turn not away.

So I guess you are saying that party suing the diocese is evil?

[Alex Murphy]

So I guess you are saying that party suing the diocese is evil?

"For while you are going with your opponent to appear before the magistrate, on your way there make an effort to settle with him, so that he may not drag you before the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison.
"I say to you, you will not get out of there until you have paid the very last cent."
-- Luke 12:58-59

Are you saying the (guilty) accused owes nothing?

[frogjerk]

Are you saying the (guilty) accused owes nothing?

Guilty and accused are not the same.

[Alex Murphy]

Guilty and accused are not the same.

Accused parties don't offer $600,000,000 settlements - that works out to about $67 per Catholic, or more than $1 million per parish - if they're certain that they're not guilty.

[HarleyD]

So I guess you are saying that party suing the diocese is evil?

If they have not confessed their sins and do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ for their salvation, then the scriptures describe them as wicked and perverse. Their father is the devil. That is not my words but the Lord Jesus.

That being said our Lord also said that we'll be accused of all sorts of things and we are to give no offense. Christians are to be lights to the world. We are not to adopt worldly legalities nor split legal hairs.