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Posted on 05/21/2010 3:41:07 AM PDT by central_va
It's about an 800 mile drive for me.
Perhaps a better question might be how many plan to vacation there, and just in case anything untoward happens while they're there, intend to have the equipment and supplies along with them if the balloon does indeed go up.
Let me know when a bunch of San Francisco sissy invade Arizona demanding their power and water back.
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We won’t have to go to Arizona; there will be plenty going on all over the country.
Have family outside Phoenix. I’d be there tomorrow if they needed me.
>>If an attempt at secession succeeds, war will result, and yes that will spell the end of this nation. Is that really what you advocate?<<
And the alternative is? We must choose between freedom and slavery. Should the end of America come because of secession and war, a new country will arise from the ashes, stronger than before. Just as it happened after the first secession.
“I know not what course others may take; but as for me... give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry
Fight. Fight to protect what we have. But you will never build by destroying. And I guarantee that if you rend The United States you will NEVER see "a new country will arise from the ashes, stronger than before."
Curiously, if you listen to any of the Lost Causers at FreeRepublic, they all whine about how totally "f'd" up the south is (while scapegoating blame on the north). So which is it? Is the country stronger than before or did the last attempt at secession damage her?
Alright...
if we’re really gonna do this, first step is to elect a general and have him draw up a plan of attack. Then we need to send a declaration of war.
Very optimistic. I would say it us unrealistic. The country did emerge better after the first secession with the end of slavery but that was certainly not the Confederates' motivation for rebellion.
I've never asked, what is a suburbanite from Obama town doing in Kansas?
I advocate the end of this marxist / socialist tyranny, if it ends this nation in the process, then so be it.
Do you advocate being complicit in death of our natural rights through inaction? Do you advocate being complicit in the evil this nation will do in our name?
Sticking together does not mean staying tied to the idiots who support tyrants... I think you missed the entire meaning of that quote.
Fallacy of the false dichotomy, and a big ol red herring. We’re not living in a “marxist / socialist tyranny” much as Øbozo would like us to be.
And I reject both of your choices. I advocate standing up to the fascists and fighting to keep what our founders worked so hard to create. I won’t cut & run.
You ask:”Is the country stronger than before or did the last attempt at secession damage her?”
The answer is yes to both. The Yankee War surely damaged America - on both sides. Much of the South was laid waste; while the cost in lives then would be a comparable NINE MILLION today. Out of this chaos came a renewed America grew to be the most powerful on Earth.
I have enough faith in the American spirit and the commitment to freedom that our people have, that, should secession and war be repeated, the same renewal will happen.
Well, if we get Dixie, and the rest of red state AMERICA out of this mess. You’ll have our invite. Lord knows we will need your help deporting n-s , and the rest of his Jane Fonda hit parade back to Chicago, and N.Y....
uh huh...
whatever...
The founders also knew that it wouldnt last. They also gave their “permission” to end it when it when it spiraled out of control.
Not a tyranny? Check again... that “not tyrannical” “not marxist” government just set the wheels in motion to own your ass. Not only do they own the product of your labor they will soon own the means to your health and well being.
The only one I see slapping a big ole red fish around is you.
You already have “cut and run”. Your looking for the easy way out. The road to “honorable failure”. Your expecting to die of old age before it gets too bad.
Hey... you like quotes. here is one for ya.
“We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves longer.
Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament.
Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope.
If we wish to be free — if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending — if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!
They tell us, sir, that we are weak — unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?
Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us.
The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable — and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come!
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, “Peace! Peace!” — but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death! “ — Patrick Henry
Oh.. and this one...
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Yea, OK lol.
Let me know when you start the revolution...
Lol...
That response has grown ineffective and tired.
So what are you gonna do?
You'd lose.
I've never asked, what is a suburbanite from Obama town doing in Kansas?
Quite well, thank you.
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