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Rand Paul smacks down Stephanopoulos for reading DNC talking point memo (video)
PolitiPage.com ^ | 05/21/10 | kevin kristy

Posted on 05/21/2010 9:05:43 AM PDT by nhwingut

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To: nhwingut; JLS
In America all politics is not local but ultimately racial.

The purpose of this line of questioning whether conducted by Rachel Maddow, George Stephanopoulos, or NPR is not just to disadvantage a Republican candidate it is to utterly delegitimatize him, to render him a political pariah, to in push him beyond the pale, to destroy him and functionally kill him off.

The options which Rand Paul might have chosen in the face of this assault included the Trent Lott option which is to tear his shirt in front of the camera, grovel, and beg and plead ceaselessly for forgiveness until we are all sick unto death of the whole pathetic scene. To his credit, Rand Paul chose quite the opposite reaction, he chose to counterattack, to delegitimatize George Stephanopoulos, to discredit him as a journalist, to question his motives, to render him as unworthy as a toad of the Democratic Party.

I have been advocating this course for years on my about page and glad to see that at least one politician has the right instincts.


21 posted on 05/21/2010 9:28:17 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Migraine

Why alinsky stuff? Because he’s been

1) Isolated

2) defined by his haters

3) frozen

4) in process of being destroyed.

That is the step by step alinsky method.

He needs to figure out ways to do that right back to them, showing the ways in which the Civil Rights Act was needed in order to bring the ideals stated in the Declaration of Independence and some of the Amendments into realization for our black people; but that there had been some predictable unintended consequences — yes, all-white organizations were prohibited; BUT ALL-BLACK ORGANIZATIONS ARE.

It is scandalous that, in the wake of civil rights laws, voluntary associations of white people are disallowed, but we have a Blech Caucus (no Caucasian Caucus), Black Colleges, Black Student Unions, Miss Black America, Blech ad nauseam.

In the wake of the Civil Rights Act, we have no way of requiring ID at the polls, thereby subjecting the most sacred of American institutions, elections, to rampant fraud, all in the name of the repeal of the polltax.
In the wake of the Civil Rights act, we outlaw hate speech if whites do it, whether in church or elsewhere, yet we have Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan getting a pass.

In the wake of the Civil Rights Act, we are wary, leery, nervous about pro-white political groups like the KKK; but where is the Southern Poverty Law Center, and its attendant liberal media to decry the groups like those of the same Louis Farrakhan?

These are some of the points that need to be made, thereby giving back some of the alinsky treatment to those who are so fond of its methods.


22 posted on 05/21/2010 9:29:26 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: brownsfan

Just thinking maybe its time we start a fight with these folks. Just to run away from it .... not working so well.


23 posted on 05/21/2010 9:30:02 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: JLS

What? RINO?

GMAFB!


24 posted on 05/21/2010 9:30:49 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: brownsfan
Yes--Paul was naive thinking he could talk in abstractions about libertarianism and not have it used as a "gotcha"--it made me mad. I'm hoping he takes a serious lesson from this, not to maunder and blather about. This is one of the things that irritates me about doctrinaire libertarians who are a little too in love with the idea of themselves as libertarian.

McConnell is probably enjoying a good laugh, and laughing best.

As for where the talking points originate, try Rahm Emmanuel or John Podesta instead of the DNC. That's where the real spin starts.

25 posted on 05/21/2010 9:32:28 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: sickoflibs

Of course Graham is NOT on their good list. He is a member of the GOP.

Graham like Paul thinks he can be on their good list. No member of the GOP can be on their good list. Just Rinos like Graham and now Paul think they can be on their good list, try to be on their good list etc. That is how they become Rinos.


26 posted on 05/21/2010 9:34:53 AM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who wont even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day)
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To: Carley
RE :”You mean Rand Paul was honest about his opinion. How dare he not play the game

It is not a pretty picture watching him sweat and give tons of disclaimers and try to change the subject, but still talk about it, then backtrack.... Going on Maddow MSNBC thinking she was his friend when she does nightly racebaiting to sell socialism was stupid. He was not prepared for it. Maybe he will learn that liberals are not his friends.

I am one of the biggest Bush critics on him sticking his foot in his mouth then giving in so I cant let Paul off the hook.

27 posted on 05/21/2010 9:35:11 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: JLS

Stephanopoulous is a RINO?

- JP


28 posted on 05/21/2010 9:36:05 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("Every time a Democrat mocks Sarah Palin, an independent gets its wings." - JP)
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To: nhwingut
"Rand Paul smacks down Stephanopoulos for reading DNC talking point memo"

It should be easy to obtain a copy of the Dem Talking Point Memo Du Jour. The MSM should be ambushed by QUOTING BACK the memo point to the interviewer along the lines of:

"Thank you for that question. I believe you are referring to today's Democrat Talking Points Circular - point number 5. More correctly, you should have asked me.....etc. etc."

When that happens a few times, they might start asking some real questions.

29 posted on 05/21/2010 9:40:14 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: reaganairport

Yea, but I bet it felt good to smack snuffy across the mouth with it ;-)


30 posted on 05/21/2010 9:41:15 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: JLS

Although factually he had an excellent point. The Commerce Clause was stretched in order to end segregation. Got us to where we needed to go, but ever since it’s been used to absolutey run roughshod over all of our rights and freedoms.


31 posted on 05/21/2010 9:43:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: nathanbedford
at least one politician has the right instincts.

Nathan, I'm in your camp on this one.

Finally, a Byrd strike!

32 posted on 05/21/2010 9:48:16 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: Josh Painter

Well lets see:

Republican In Name Only? We have two choices:

1. Rand Paul uses the GOP label. Went on MS-NBC after a victory and spoke frankly like he expects them to treat them fairly.

2. George Stephanopolulous never been known to use the GOP label. Knows who his enemies are.

Gee you figure it out? But it is sad to see yet another Rino sucking up to the lefty media.


33 posted on 05/21/2010 9:49:08 AM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who wont even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day)
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To: griswold3

Chris Chisty.


34 posted on 05/21/2010 9:49:33 AM PDT by Defiant (Were Democrats always marxist, or did Barry convert them all in the past two years?)
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To: nhwingut

Well, there you go again (as Ronald Reagan would say). George Step-on-all-of-us acting as the lap dog of the DNC.


35 posted on 05/21/2010 9:50:03 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: JLS

Rush tried to tell the ‘94 GOP house winners what the real deal was. It still remains true and Mr. Paul best listen up...THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS!!!


36 posted on 05/21/2010 9:53:15 AM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I could care less about the Rino’s point. I care that KY just nominated yet another guy who will go to DC and try to suck up to the leftist press.

John McCain has good points on some issues like spending. Graham was great asking Holder about issues of evidence if there is a KSM trial in criminal courts. But they are unreliable in part because they are always looking for MSMediots to validate them ala Rand Paul running in victory to appear on MS-NBC. I guess we should have known a guy who grew up in a political family in DC could have these Rino tendencies.


37 posted on 05/21/2010 9:53:52 AM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who wont even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day)
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To: JPG

Exatly, I remember Limbaugh discussing his talk to the class of 94 GOP Frosh.


38 posted on 05/21/2010 9:54:55 AM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who wont even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day)
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To: Mamzelle

That’s the thing with libertarian arguments — you can win the debate on technical grounds but it doesn’t look good on tv. And of course liberalism in many cases is just the opposite. It takes a true gift to make libertarian arguments look appealing. Reagan could do it (obviously he wasn’t a pure libertarian but there was a lot of libertarianism in him). If he had been in this position he’d’ve had some kind of judo move up his sleeve to defuse their little bomb. In fact, I wonder what his stated position was RE desegregation of private establishments. One has to be a fairly pure libertarian to stick to principle and stand by the notion of private property and freedom of association. He probably wasn’t quite that pure. If Paul can figure out a way to get through this without either going limp or being pariah-ized he will have pulled off something pretty impressive.


39 posted on 05/21/2010 9:55:33 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Mamzelle
This is one of the things that irritates me about doctrinaire libertarians . . .

Are you suggesting that a "doctrinaire libertarian" won an election landslide in Kentucky? Choose your words more carefully.

40 posted on 05/21/2010 9:57:01 AM PDT by Misterioso (A socialist is a communist, but too stupid to realize it.)
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