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Smaller Bullet Gets The Longer Shot
The Strategy Page ^ | 5/17/2010 | James Dinnigan

Posted on 05/23/2010 6:29:19 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

It was recently revealed that, last November, a British sniper (corporal Craig Harrison) set a new distance record when he killed two Taliban in Afghanistan, at a range of 2,620 meters (8,596 feet). He did this with a L115A3 rifle firing the 8.6mm Lapua Magnum round. The previous record was held by a Canadian soldier, corporal Rob Furlong, who dropped an al Qaeda gunman at 2,573 meters (7,972 feet) in 2002, also in Afghanistan. Furlong, however, was using a 12.7mm (.50 caliber) rifle. These weapons are good at 2,000 meters or more, but weigh twice as much as the 6.8 kg (15 pound) 8.6mm rifles. Three years ago, the British Army began replacing most of its 3,000 7.62mm L96A1 sniper rifles with one modified to use the .338 (8.6mm) Lapua Magnum caliber round. This Accuracy International "Super Magnum" rifle is basically a L96A1 "Arctic Warfare" rifle modified to handle the larger, 8.6mm Lapua Magnum round. The new rifle (the L115A1) weighed 6.8 kg (without a scope), was fifty inches long and had a 27 inch barrel and a five round magazine.

Snipers in Iraq, and especially Afghanistan, have been calling for a longer range round, but find the 12.7mm (.50 caliber) weapons too heavy. The .338 (8.6mm) Lapua Magnum round has an effective range (about 1,500 meters) about 50 percent greater than the 7.62mm standard NATO round. Like most long range rounds, if the weather (clear) and winds (calm) are right, you can hit targets farther away. Those were the conditions Harrison encountered when he took his three shots (the third one hit the machine-gun the two Taliban were using.)

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 86mm; afghanistan; banglist; britisharmy; bullet; craigharrison; l115a3; rifle; sharpshooter; sniper; taliban
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To: valkyry1

...set a new distance record when he killed two Taliban in Afghanistan, at a range of 2,620 meters”

—should be a new Olympic event.


21 posted on 05/23/2010 7:52:30 PM PDT by RepublicanMeansAmerican
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To: Blood of Tyrants

When he used a .50 cal it was using an M2 mounted on a heavy tripod with a 10x Unertl scope. Pretty cool.


22 posted on 05/23/2010 7:59:09 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Yep. I read the book about 10 years ago.


23 posted on 05/23/2010 8:13:15 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

This is a pretty entertaining competition: How far away can you kill bad guys? Has Guinness picked up on this?


24 posted on 05/23/2010 8:20:11 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Dead Corpse
I'm going to offer some unsolicited advice.

Go with the .50 BMG. Ammo will be far more available for that in the coming days than any of the other platforms you are considering.

25 posted on 05/23/2010 8:23:46 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: P8riot
"Conservation applies to ammo too. Why use any more than you have too? "

I have a 6.5mm 1896 Swedish Mauser. The ballistic coefficient on that bullet is out of sight. The cartridge itself, however, is puny.

26 posted on 05/23/2010 10:14:58 PM PDT by matthew fuller ("In God We Trust" is being replaced by "Don't Aks, Don't Tell".)
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To: matthew fuller
more to consider here besides bullet and barrel. Wind, barometric pressure, time of day/ As far as the different rifles are concerned go with a Barrett 50. You will never be sorry.
27 posted on 05/23/2010 10:23:29 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (deserve it.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Key issue: the .50BMG was built as a hard-hitting anti-materiel round - not for long range accuracy. Civilian shooters realized what it could do, and built precision rifles to match its capabilities. Military then noticed, and applied the previously-intended-for "hail of lead" ammo for sniping. The other "smaller" rounds were built for long-range precision from the ground up, hence the better range-and-accuracy performance.
28 posted on 05/23/2010 10:23:37 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Just imagine what Carlos Hathcock could have done with one of these babies!

Or Simo Hayha!

29 posted on 05/23/2010 10:44:37 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: BooBoo1000

The 50BMG looses too much energy, and hence accuracy, at the ranges that the .338LM, .408Chey-tac, and the .416Barret are still driving nails.


30 posted on 05/24/2010 9:29:17 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: matthew fuller

I like the 6.5 x 55 for smaller game at long distances. It’s one of the best kept secrets out there. I used to have a model 70 chambered for it. Sorry to say, I let it go.


31 posted on 05/24/2010 9:39:22 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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