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A novel way to clean up the oil
an on-line video ^ | don't know

Posted on 05/24/2010 6:16:26 AM PDT by Shannon

This is not a joke. A friend sent it to me. Watch it. You'll be surprised.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: again; cleanup; energy; oil
http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil/
1 posted on 05/24/2010 6:16:26 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: Shannon

Is this the Hay bale solution? It’s from our neighbors in Walton County to our east..............


2 posted on 05/24/2010 6:17:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you'll know that its desolation is NEAR. Luke 21)
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To: Shannon
Don't know the logistics of this but the idea is not new. You wouldn't want to use hay as it is food for livestock and that would have a negative effect on food prices.

Non-food grasses and other straw might be used right off shore in front of the marshes.

3 posted on 05/24/2010 6:22:34 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Shannon

Dunno about the clean-up.

But seems to this poster, the way to plug this well is with a vary large, very tough, very stiff version of an angioplasty balloon.

Push it down the well just like that 4-inch tube they’ve got in the well opening now. Put some sort of grappling arrangement on the front, which will expand and grip outward holding the plug in place.

Then inflate it.

Once the flow is stopped temporarily, cement the darn thing.

Only problem with all this is, how can we build something that fancy this quick - because we don’t make anything anymore and we sent all our factories which could do something like that fast and competently. To China.

Then fired the Americans who could pull it off.


4 posted on 05/24/2010 6:22:35 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: Red Badger
Yes, it's with hay. It's amazing to watch. It works!

I thought I'd posted the link so people could just click on it but......it didn't work.

5 posted on 05/24/2010 6:23:46 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: Shannon

It may work but it won’t be used.

It is not an EPA approved dispersant. The dispersant currently being used is made by Exxon. There is no way BP will take a risk of using anything not approved by the EPA.

BTW, the EPA approved dispersants go back to about 1996.

If it involves common sense, BP and our government wouldn’t understand.


6 posted on 05/24/2010 6:26:40 AM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Shannon

The government and the Enviros could not permit something actually useful to be used for this. There is too much political hay to be made without the hay. Ultimately they may be able use this to shut down offshore oil altogether. They are not going to let a little hay get in the way of grander schemes.


7 posted on 05/24/2010 6:30:52 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Eagles6

All that is needed is something with a large amount of surface area and is porous for adsorption.

Straw or hay fits the bill, because it is a least cost product available in large quantities. The economy is already tooled up to produce hay and stray. It’s nutritional value isn’t a requirement, so lesser hays are adequate for the problem.


8 posted on 05/24/2010 6:35:50 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
All that is needed is something with a large amount of surface area and is porous for adsorption.

Lots and lots of confiscated pot?!

9 posted on 05/24/2010 6:38:17 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: airborne
Kudzu


10 posted on 05/24/2010 6:39:44 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( Ridicule is the best test of truth. - Philip Dormer Shanhope, Lord Chesterfield)
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To: Shannon

I love the American Spirit showing in peoples solutions, but a LARGE donation to the Democrat Party would be the smartest way to get the job.


11 posted on 05/24/2010 6:40:32 AM PDT by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You would think that there would be some way to do what you are saying except maybe with a something rigid that would function like an umbrella. Once pushed into the well and allowed to expand it could slow or stop the leak.

At this point I think anything that even slows it will be better than nothing. Shoot how about huge concrete bags, kind of like the sand bags they used for the levy in LA, but with concrete so the upward flow of oil wouldn’t rip them part.

Overall this whole response has been piss poor and I can’t believe they haven’t gotten a handle on this yet.


12 posted on 05/24/2010 6:40:48 AM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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To: arthurus

Sadly, I think you’re spot on. Otherwise cleanup would be a lot farther along than it is.


13 posted on 05/24/2010 6:46:57 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: Cvengr
Yes, that's the point that I was trying to make. Plenty of non-food grasses out there.

Even if it's just offshore ahead of the marshes.

14 posted on 05/24/2010 6:47:45 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Eagles6

The non-food grasses tend to be more costly as they are are in areas not developed for harvesting. Cost per harvested bushel are generally much higher. That’s why farmland is developed,...to bring the cost of harvest down and yield up.


15 posted on 05/24/2010 6:50:31 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
Won't that lead to an increase in meat/dairy prices?

Just thinking.

16 posted on 05/24/2010 7:07:42 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If they could get it down the well from the top they would have already done it.

They wouldn’t have to build squat, they could just buy one off the shelf.

This is exactly what they will do with the relief well.

Drill into the side of the casing and insert a plug.


17 posted on 05/24/2010 7:12:28 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Eagles6

In a finite Obama economy perhaps, but with plenty of unused labor,industrial equipment, and fallow fields, its an opportunity to grow the economy.


18 posted on 05/24/2010 7:13:16 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Now there’s a thought.


19 posted on 05/24/2010 7:19:35 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Shannon

Is there a reason that this method isn’t being used? Other than the fact that the kenyan wants to use the oil as an example of furthering other agendas.


20 posted on 05/24/2010 7:23:36 AM PDT by albie
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To: Eagles6

“Won’t that lead to an increase in meat/dairy prices?”

Probably not, looks like that’s coming regardless.

Idiots are feeding corn to cattle who should be grazing. They are not pigs.

Plenty of videos online about this already and the Monsanto proprietary GM soy beans. There are even people speculating that’s what killing the bees. Einstein said we would be in major trouble if the bees died.


21 posted on 05/24/2010 7:23:40 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I would like to know why they are using only a 4 inch tube in the well opening that is 22 inches in diameter. Why are they not running a 20 inch pipe down inside the 22 inch pipe? Or anything larger than what they have. They are trying to use a straw to drink from a broken off fire hydrant. Somebody get a bigger straw!!


22 posted on 05/24/2010 7:33:00 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soul mate, CDBEAR. 28 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: BookaT

Why don’t they just stick Obama in the pipe head first? As much as his head swells, the thing would be plugged immediately and stay plugged.


23 posted on 05/24/2010 7:51:54 AM PDT by imfrmdixie
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To: NerdDad
22in would be the size of the riser pipe, not the casing.
I don't know what 4” pipe you're talking about, but I assume you are referring to the pipe on the BOP. That's just the size that's on it.
24 posted on 05/24/2010 7:53:29 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Eagles2003

Didn’t they find that it was a virus killing the bees?


25 posted on 05/24/2010 7:59:26 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Cvengr

“Straw or hay fits the bill, because it is a least cost product available in large quantities.”

1. The hay crop isn’t due in for another month or so.
2. Apparently you haven’t been buying any hay lately. It is not cheap.
3. Straw is cheaper, but tend to appear during harvest, it doesn’t just lay around for free pick up.


26 posted on 05/24/2010 8:06:57 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: Eagles6

They are finding a large infestation of the virus, begins with n...

Stress causes fish, insects and animals to be vulnerable to germs that may not bother them when they are not stressed. Stress can be biologically or environment induced. These viruses may have have mutated the same way the genes were introduced into the Monsanto soy beans, by bacteria. Could have even come from the genes still in the soy beans. Scary documentaries on this topic, no one has the answers.

Try keeping tropical fish and letting the nitrogen levels get too high. You can lose an entire tank. Salt water fish are even more expensive and sensitive.


27 posted on 05/24/2010 8:11:05 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: texmexis best

It’s not so novel, hay was the first product used to clean up spills, but it proved difficult to manage after it soaked up the oil.


28 posted on 05/24/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Eva (Aand)
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To: texmexis best

Depends where you are. We had hay cut two weeks ago.


29 posted on 05/24/2010 8:21:11 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: BookaT

If you can prevent a major ecological disaster when the government and professional oil companies can’t...you might be a redneck.


30 posted on 05/24/2010 8:23:00 AM PDT by maxsand
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To: maxsand

That’s Brilliant! :)


31 posted on 05/24/2010 9:08:57 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: albie
Is there a reason that this method isn’t being used?

I have no idea. I think posting #7 probably hit the nail on the head.

32 posted on 05/24/2010 10:34:14 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: texmexis best

Sorry, I live out in the desert where water dictates the number of crops a year more than the seasons. Out here some will grow 7 crops a year. Go figure. (Of course too many folks over seed and fail to l the land rest, resulting in it becoming barren, even with water.) I’m still partial to the Biblical 1 year rest for every 7 year cycle.


33 posted on 05/24/2010 10:49:24 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Then inflate it.

At which point the massive pressure that is pushing the oil out blows the thing out of the pipe like a spit wad. We have plenty of engineers in this country and they are getting the problem solved as fast as possible. Denigrating them and glorifying China does not help. Random factories in China certainly have no more expertise at solving complex problems under thousands of feet of water.
34 posted on 05/24/2010 11:58:46 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: albie
Is there a reason that this method isn’t being used?

It is not being used because cleaning up gobs of oil soaked hay is more of pain then cleaning up oil.
35 posted on 05/24/2010 12:00:06 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Cvengr
All that is needed is something with a large amount of surface area and is porous for adsorption

Perhaps 20 or more years ago I purchased something called the amazing new "Magic Mop". The mop has wide plastic strands with a handle similar to what you would find on a whisk. The strands were referred to as a "miracle fiber" that grease would adhere to but would not stick to.

The function was to insert the mop into a stew, soup, gravy, or chili that was too greasy. Swish it around a bit and the grease will adhere to the “miracle fiber”. To clean the fiber you would put it under running hot water, boil it, or put in a dishwasher.

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Contrary to what you may hear, it works and works well unless you expect it to remove 100% of the grease.

36 posted on 05/24/2010 3:56:46 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: TalonDJ

Right you are, but if you’re thinking our manufacturing, economic and technical competence situation vis a vis China is a matter of “random factories” you are flat out, not paying attention.

China is replacing America in the world.

In every way.

And we all whistle past, pretending “free trade” will magically save us from national extinction.

Free trade is a good concept, but it’s not magic.

Unless and until our side grasps that truth, America will continue to implode. Because the OTHER side sure as heck doesn’t seem to care what happens to America.


37 posted on 05/24/2010 6:03:27 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: Shannon

I saw this video a couple of weeks ago. I wondered why I never heard it mentioned again, it was amazing.


38 posted on 05/24/2010 6:19:18 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

I too thought it was amazing. I posted it on FR to get it some widespread circulation. I’m starting to wonder if there are some in high positions that don’t want the oil cleaned up. When it’s gone on this long what else can you think?


39 posted on 05/25/2010 4:50:34 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: Shannon
I too thought it was amazing. I posted it on FR to get it some widespread circulation. I’m starting to wonder if there are some in high positions that don’t want the oil cleaned up. When it’s gone on this long what else can you think?

I think that you are right. Hay, straw etc. WAY TOO SIMPLE for those in high places. For heaven sakes "we the people" can't be smarter than they are.

40 posted on 05/25/2010 11:22:54 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes
I watched a video today, off Drudge, that was from one of the morning shows. It had Cousteau's grandson on it. They showed what's happening under the water when the chemical dispersant mixes with the oil. It makes very tiny blobs that can go into the gills of the fish. It's a total disaster.

If I had property on that shoreline I'd be out buying all the grass/hay that I could get my hands on to at least stop it when it got to shore.

41 posted on 05/25/2010 4:41:57 PM PDT by Shannon
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