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Feds ask Va. health reform lawsuit be dismissed
AP ^ | May 24, 2010 | Bob Lewis

Posted on 05/24/2010 7:55:33 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction

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To: BuffaloJack

I don’t follow, I don’t see what you are saying. Please explain.


41 posted on 05/25/2010 8:27:25 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: max americana; darkangel82

I think she does know what she is talking about, unfortunately.

I think she has also been instructed to not show the real strategy that the administration will use to defeat the lawsuits.

Commerce clause is first card played but not for the purpose of winning the game, but for winning a hand in the game. Real Ace game-winner that administration keeps from view is 16th Amendment. Same playbook that FDR used in the 1930s to defend Social Security.

Obama government will say, and they will be ruled correct, that they are not forcing anyone to buy a product, they are merely setting minimum standards, that no one is forced to buy health insurance that meets minimum federal standards, but those that don’t provide proof on their tax returns will not receive a ‘credit’, and must pay the tax.

It’s a frigging tax argument, not a commerce argument. Let’s be clear:

IT’S A TAX ARGUMENT THAT WE MUST PROVIDE ‘PROOF’ ELSE WE PAY THE TAX

versus

IT’S A COMMERCE ARGUMENT THAT WE MUST BUY

We have to be aware and not set ourselves up to weak arguments, because when we lose we are going to be angry and demoralized.

And if you think that getting mad, and grabbing a gun is going to get us what we want, you are mistaken. Obama’s people want us to do that so they can impose martial law.

Here’s what we have to do NOW:

http://www.fairtax.org

and repeal the 16th Amendment!

Read this, it’s not long and it’s not difficult:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124044199838345461.html


42 posted on 05/25/2010 8:44:15 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage

I think you are correct. Basically, they will say by purchasing insurance you are given a tax break and not purchasing it you pay a higher rate. It isn’t any different than if you by weather-proofing and pay lower taxes.


43 posted on 05/25/2010 11:54:39 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
Default argument. Just deny standing.
44 posted on 05/25/2010 2:38:56 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Hoodat

“BS. Virginia insurance underwriters are prohibited from issuing policies outside of the Commonwealth of Virginia. Interstate commerce does not apply here.”

One of the doctors in Virginia stepped on a piece of discarded gum that was manufactured in another state. The 15 seconds it took the doctor to clean the gum off his shoe increased heatlh care costs so health care in Virginia is covered under “Interstate Commerce”.


45 posted on 05/26/2010 4:35:54 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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