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Andrew C. McCarthy: Ignorance about Islamic radicalism is our downfall
Washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 5/25/2010 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 05/25/2010 3:54:47 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies

Most Americans who have some passing acquaintance with the term "Salafist" assume it is a label for terrorists. Therefore, in the public mind, Salafists are the real bad guys, to be sharply distinguished from the ubiquitous Muslim "moderates" -- who are purportedly "moderate" because they allegedly "reject terrorism," not because their views are actually benign.

This is a hopelessly ill-conceived construct, but leftists -- who dominate policy circles, the academy and the media -- are delighted to have us see things this way. With Americans in the dark, Islamists freely pass themselves off as moderates. That makes it politically palatable for the left to collaborate with them in undermining the American establishment.

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To be clear: Salafism, the original inspiration of the Muslim Brotherhood, is the guiding ideology of all Islamists, the Islamist terrorists as well as those Islamists who purport to reject terrorism. Both types of Islamists want the same thing: the Islamization of society.

Both reject Western rationalism and the Christian unity of faith and reason. Both favor Sharia determinism. Both support the development of fundamentalist Muslim enclaves and the ultimate supplanting of American constitutional democracy by Islamic law.

Nonterrorist Islamists want to overthrow the U.S. government every bit as much as the terrorists do. They are not moderates. Their differences with the terrorists are over means and methods, not goals.

True, some of these differences are intense and each side fires invective, and worse, at the other. But we should not be fooled by any of this. For all their infighting, the Islamists and the terrorists start and hope to end in the same place.

They are the flip sides of the same revolution, playing a good cop/bad cop routine -- which is really bad cop/worse cop.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
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1 posted on 05/25/2010 3:54:47 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I don’t think it’s ignorance.
I think it is willful.


2 posted on 05/25/2010 4:08:28 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (Where is the Black Regiment?)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

We the people are not ignorant of the dangers, we are powerless to act, AT THIS TIME.

We must have regime change in the USA. Remember that in November and make sure that the dems no longer control congress.

It’s going to mean holding our nose and voting for the RINO if he/she is the candidate but we cannot abdicate our responsibility to national security.


3 posted on 05/25/2010 4:13:23 AM PDT by Carley (WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: vanilla swirl

You mean DENIAL?


4 posted on 05/25/2010 4:21:41 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for leaders that men do not think". A. Hitler)
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To: Carley
We the people are not ignorant of the dangers, we are powerless to act, AT THIS TIME. We must have regime change in the USA. Remember that in November and make sure that the dems no longer control congress. It’s going to mean holding our nose and voting for the RINO if he/she is the candidate but we cannot abdicate our responsibility to national security.

Great post. Perfect answer to the people who threaten to vote third party, vote for Mickey Mouse, or stay home on Election Day if anyone other than a reincarnation of Ronald Reagan is nominated. This year and in 2012, the stakes are just too high. We have to play it safe and just take as many seats in Congress as we possibly can, RINOs or not. And we have to get Obama out of the White House.

5 posted on 05/25/2010 4:28:32 AM PDT by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Fine commentary, except where the author deposits a term like “Sharia determinism” and simply ambles on, leaving it undefined.


6 posted on 05/25/2010 4:30:51 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
"Islamic determinism" is something of a defined term both inside and outside the Muslim world and I think that's how McCarthy is using the term here.

Here is an interest commentary on it...

"Islam and Determinism" By Dr. Ahmad Shafaat

7 posted on 05/25/2010 4:41:54 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama: "Lawless...with all power, signs and lying wonders")
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
"Islamic determinism" is something of a defined term

but "Islamic" and "Sharia" are distinctly different things.

However you slice it, it's real sloppy to hash two words ("Sharia determinism") into a construct and leave them there for readers to speculate about.

8 posted on 05/25/2010 4:49:05 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Just to clarify (still operating in caffeine deficit), I think what McCarthy means by Sharia Determinism is that Sharia is the tool by which Islamic determinism is forced on humans.

Probably something you--and everyone else--already knows, but, as I said, I'm still operating with only one eye opened.

9 posted on 05/25/2010 4:49:24 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama: "Lawless...with all power, signs and lying wonders")
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I too suffer from hypocaffeinism. It’s a curse. Somebody needs to invent a patch. Maybe a sleep mask impregnated with coffee crystals, so we can awaken perked up. Or eyedrops (”good to the very last drop!”) that don’t have the grittiness of the homemade variety.


10 posted on 05/25/2010 5:20:26 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
but "Islamic" and "Sharia" are distinctly different things.

No. They are exactly the same. islam commands that sharia be used to enslave the people. Sharia cannot be separated from islam and islam cannot be separated from sharia. If you have one you have the other.

Likewise moslem = terrorist. You can't be a moslem without being a terrorist. The war on terror ends with the death of the last moslem

11 posted on 05/25/2010 5:51:52 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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John O, I'm somewhat nuance-challenged myself, but Islamic and Sharia are not the same at all, nor does moslem equal terrorist.

Sloppy writing is to be criticized. The man slopped together Sharia and determinism. If it's so elementary, would you care to define that?

12 posted on 05/25/2010 6:07:58 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Try this:

"Sharia Determinism" = "EVIL"

(See tagline...)

13 posted on 05/25/2010 7:21:38 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
John O, I'm somewhat nuance-challenged myself, but Islamic and Sharia are not the same at all, nor does moslem equal terrorist.

1. Moslem = terrorist. The koran (and hadith) commands teh moslem to fighgt against teh unbeliever until they are enslaved or killed using whatever means necessary. Lying, cheating, making treaties they don't intend to keep, anything they can do to enslave or kill the unbeleievr is commanded them to use. Looks like terroristm to me. While an individual moslem could possibly be a good person, his religion forces him to be a terrorist.

The war on terrorism ends with the death (since they are commanded to lie, we cannot trust conversions) of the last moslem. As long as the koran/hadith exists and is followed by one person, there will be terrorists. Even "good" people who become moslem will eventually become full scale terrorists (or terrorist suppporters. Why were there NO moslem condmenations of 9-11? Because the moslems approve of those acts)

2. Islam is a religious/political system. It is all encpompassing for it's followers. Sharia is the set of rules by which all moslems are commanded to live. If you separate islam from the rules under which islam operates it ceases to be islam. If you separate sharia from the religious/political system that authorizes it, it ceases to be sharia. The two are inextricably linked. Sharia is islam. Islam is sharia.

Sloppy writing is to be criticized. The man slopped together Sharia and determinism. If it's so elementary, would you care to define that?

It wasn't sloppy writing. It was exactly correct.

Islam is all encompassing to it's followers. Sharia leaves no room for individual creativity or initiative. Every country on which sharia is imposed decays into a third world hell-hole like Afghanistan under the taliban. Every facet of life (down to which hand you wipe your bottom with) is covered and controlled.

Sharis determines everything in islam. "allah's will be done" If anything happens it happens because allah wills it. Sharia removes all hope of affecting your world. since everything happens according to allah's will then to contest that and try to change it is to work against allah. Sharia enforces fatalistic determinism.

14 posted on 05/25/2010 7:31:35 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
YMMV
HAND
RSVP
15 posted on 05/25/2010 9:01:57 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: TXnMA

The writer’s a former prosecutor. He couldn’t just say “evil?”
Works for me.


16 posted on 05/25/2010 9:03:27 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: John O

Nicely Done!!!


17 posted on 05/25/2010 9:32:07 AM PDT by TXnMA
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To: TXnMA
Nicely Done!!!

< elvis voice >
Thank you Thank you very much
< /elvis voice >

Actually though if you pay attention this stuff just writes itself. it amazes me that so few people in the media or politics can't see (or admit) these simple truths

18 posted on 05/25/2010 9:57:05 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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