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Hidden video shows Ohio cows beaten (horrifying video)
The Canton Repository (Ohio) ^ | May 26, 2010 | Meghan Barr (AP)

Posted on 05/26/2010 3:09:05 AM PDT by ResistorSister

Edited on 05/26/2010 4:35:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: grey_whiskers

Your “fervent wish” was to bring up the issue of abortion, and you did, despite the fact that abortion has nothing to do with this thread. Stop giving me BS for pointing it out.


261 posted on 05/26/2010 6:19:36 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I brought up abortion first in post #60, and it took you until the #200's or so to come up with the phrase "fervent wish", after several other personal remarks. Hence the assignment to ad hominem.
262 posted on 05/26/2010 6:23:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ResistorSister

I was raised on a farm. My dad worked part time at a sale,
he would home just heart sick at the way men beat new born calves.
I can not watch these beast hurting these poor animals. The day will come when they stand before God,then they will pay for what they did. This breaks my heart.


263 posted on 05/26/2010 6:26:00 PM PDT by ezcritter
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To: grey_whiskers
Right. And to this moment, we have yet to see you make the argument that the mistreatment of these cows has anything to do with Roe v. Wade, or abortion, or whatever.
264 posted on 05/26/2010 6:28:10 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ezcritter

Why do they beat the new born calves?


265 posted on 05/26/2010 6:34:43 PM PDT by ResistorSister (Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. I Cor. 16:13)
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To: 1rudeboy
And to this moment, we have yet to see you make the argument that the mistreatment of these cows has anything to do with Roe v. Wade, or abortion, or whatever.

Which is exactly why your reaction is so over the top.

266 posted on 05/26/2010 6:43:44 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Right. So help me follow you . . . the principal actor in the conspiracy will be found to be part of the conspiracy.

It's fairly simple, really. Animal rights activists want to prevent anyone from having any contact with animals. So, as part of their attempted emotional manipulation of people to get them to "accept" that any human contact with animals is unspeakably cruel and must be stopped, they have to demonstrate to people the horrible abuse. Since that level of abuse is extremely rare, especially in professions where animal health is crucial to success, they have to infiltrate those businesses, wait until everyone else is gone, and then abuse the animals (or pay someone to abuse them) while they film. They then have all kinds of "evidence" of animal abuse occurring in whatever industry they target, whether it's farms or laboratories.

It's not much of a conspiracy, really. It's not like getting a job on a farm, at a slaughterhouse, or in a research institution is incredibly hard. It's not. In labs, at least, it isn't unusual for people to be working outside of normal business hours, so the opportunities are there for the activists to be the only ones present.

267 posted on 05/26/2010 8:24:17 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Bryan24

It does matter. He’s either just plain a sadistic beast, or he’s sadistic beast who is a paid dupe of the revolutionary left, or he’s a sadistic beast who is a consious agent of a revolutionary conspiracy. The distinctions matter. However, I quite agree on one point...he’s a sadistic beast no matter which way you slice it!


268 posted on 05/26/2010 10:35:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: exDemMom
I would bet anything that those abusing the cows in the video are members of the animal rights group.

The thing that makes me doubt that is the size of the guy in the video. Unless he's a 'new convert' or one who agrees in theory but not practice, he is not emaciated enough to be a vegan.

Just sayin.

269 posted on 05/26/2010 11:12:46 PM PDT by YankeeinOkieville (Obamanation [oh-bom-uh-nay-shuhn] n. -- ignorance and arrogance in the highest offices)
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To: grey_whiskers
"First ask the people in "Mercy for Animals" if they are pro-abortion."

LOL

270 posted on 05/27/2010 3:59:26 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: exDemMom
I'm just not following the logic behind: if A can happen, then B cannot.

Mercy for Animals has a vested interest in making this sort of a video . . . it does not necessarily follow that the video is fabricated, or that the actors on the video share that vested interest.

271 posted on 05/27/2010 4:02:48 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: YankeeinOkieville
The thing that makes me doubt that is the size of the guy in the video. Unless he's a 'new convert' or one who agrees in theory but not practice, he is not emaciated enough to be a vegan.

Just sayin.

According to the article posted in reply 167, radical leftist groups do pay people to do these things and have been implicated in such schemes in the past. I've also seen some very heavy vegetarians--I think that some of them, since they don't get enough nutrients, try to compensate by eating more (not purposely, of course).

Either way, that this is a genuine case of abuse that the animal rights activists just happened to catch on video is highly doubtful.

272 posted on 05/27/2010 4:46:41 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: 1rudeboy
I'm just not following the logic behind: if A can happen, then B cannot.

Mercy for Animals has a vested interest in making this sort of a video . . . it does not necessarily follow that the video is fabricated, or that the actors on the video share that vested interest.

I'm sorry, but I don't get how you came up with "if A can happen, then B cannot." Unless that's how you're classifying my assertion that the video was staged as a declaration that real animal abuse never happens. I didn't say that. There are enough news articles on real cases of animal abuse to know that it is real.

We know that leftists have a long history of pretending they are members of conservative groups, so that they can display the outrageous behavior they always accuse us of, thereby "proving" that we act that way.

To believe the video is genuine, we'd have to believe that an animal rights activist actually desired a farm job (which they would normally avoid like vampires avoid sunlight), and then witnessed abuse and decided to go public with it (instead of going to the boss or calling authorities), and that the abusers didn't notice that someone was following them around with a camera. It's highly unlikely.

273 posted on 05/27/2010 5:23:01 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
You haven't read the article. Mercy for Animals admitted that it made the video during an undercover operation. "To believe the video is genuine . . . .?" Umm, it's genuine.

Some people on this thread are making the argument that the video is ungenuine because* Mercy for Animals took it. That is a serious breakdown of logic.

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*Specifically:

Some animal rights groups fabricate evidence,
therefore this evidence is fabricated.

274 posted on 05/27/2010 5:33:11 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
You haven't read the article. Mercy for Animals admitted that it made the video during an undercover operation. "To believe the video is genuine . . . .?" Umm, it's genuine.

Some people on this thread are making the argument that the video is ungenuine because* Mercy for Animals took it. That is a serious breakdown of logic.

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*Specifically:

Some animal rights groups fabricate evidence,

therefore this evidence is fabricated.

I read the article and the entire thread.

1) The video is genuine (i.e. it wasn't Photoshopped).

2) The abuse is genuine. (Either the guy was paid to commit the abuse, or did it voluntarily because he's a true believer who will do anything for the cause.)

3) It was "undercover" in the sense that ONLY the animal rights activist and abuser were present at the time it was taken. It had to be done without being detected by any of the actual farm workers or management.

Do you actually think someone discovered abusing animals would let someone follow them around with a camera? Don't you think that someone genuinely stumbling on a situation like that would have a little concern for their own safety? They can't be that concerned if they're following the guy around with a camera!

275 posted on 05/27/2010 6:30:27 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: ResistorSister

I think I am going to puke with anger. How can anyone do that to an animal? This isn’t like they were killing the cow for food, this was unnecessary cruelty.


276 posted on 05/27/2010 3:17:49 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: cherry
this seems too unreal to be true....are we sure these are actual dairy farm workers...

Sadly, I've known people in my life who were this sadistic and sick. I am not going to repeat the stories here of what they did but I can guarantee they would piss everyone off.

277 posted on 05/27/2010 3:19:49 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: ResistorSister

I first thought how bad can it be??...then I started to watch it...sorry, after a bit I had to turn it off. ~sadness fills me.


278 posted on 05/27/2010 3:25:02 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: ResistorSister; All

UPDATE ALL,

the bast*ards in jail

let’s pray he’s never allowed around animals again - He shouldn’t be allowed around anything living.

” charged with 12 counts of animal cruelty yesterday, “

http://www.newser.com/story/90245/horrific-video-lands-farm-worker-in-jail.html


279 posted on 05/27/2010 9:27:47 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7
Thanks for the update! I posted the following story yesterday: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2522338/posts - Go to the original article, they have a video of the guy in court. He asked the judge if he could be released to take care of his animals (yikes!)

My local dairy, 'The Minerva Cheese Factory' purchased 100% of the Conklin Dairy Farms' milk; however, they have now stopped doing business with Conklin because of the revelations in the video. Minerva Dairy didn't sell the milk, they used it to make cheese and butter.

280 posted on 05/28/2010 3:50:02 AM PDT by ResistorSister (Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. I Cor. 16:13)
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