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To: Scythian
There are four links I'll direct you to. Read them in order and it'll explain where the USA is and explain the whole war scenario as it could possibly happen.

Battle of Ezekiel 38-39 - Part 1

Battle of Ezekiel 38-39 - Part 2

Battle of Ezekiel 38-39 - Part 3

Battle of Ezekiel 38-39 - Part 4

Let me know what you think.

39 posted on 05/26/2010 8:51:23 AM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

Cool thanks, will read now and let you know later, great stuff, thanks


58 posted on 05/26/2010 9:11:59 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: ducttape45

Okay, I just read it all, very nice, reminds me alot of Chuck Misslers view on the same versus. The author seems to indicate that there is almost a battle before the battle, that is the PLO and it’s lands are gone before Ez 38 and 39 takes place. To be honest, I can see now that the US has abandoned Israel.

It’s a good read, however, I am fearful of the rapture and being left behind, though I beleive Christ is the Son of God and rose again on the third day and no that no man can enter heaving but by his blood on the cross, I am so wretched a human being and believe if the holy spirit were dwelling in my I would not think bad thoughts like I do sometimes and so forth, it worries me to no end. On the other hand, much of my life I have been sick (long story) and part of me longs to leave this world, but not unless I am going to be with the Lord.

Thank you for sharing that with me. I think it’s a pretty good take on those versus, it is indeed unfolding right before our eyes.


69 posted on 05/26/2010 9:48:16 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: ducttape45

Bump.


75 posted on 05/26/2010 9:53:21 AM PDT by pgkdan (I Miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: ducttape45
Let me know what you think.
OK, I will: Obama is Gog.

Previously I had him pegged as the Antitchrist, but the Antichrist is described as a powerful and convincing public speaker in the Bible, so that rules him out for that role.

106 posted on 05/26/2010 11:55:55 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: ducttape45
And second, the Church will have to disappear.

What? You mean to say that the heroine of this story isn't even on stage for the most grand of all grand finales?? Since when are mere mortals like Cecil B. deMille and James Cameron better screenwriters than YHVH??

I'm not buying it.

116 posted on 05/26/2010 1:35:10 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Leftist Economic Policy is all Greek to me.)
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To: ducttape45

“And second, the Church will have to disappear. Paul wrote that Israel had been hardened in part until the full number of Gentiles has come in (Romans 11:25). That means as long as the Church is around Israel won’t be able to recognize God’s involvement in their national life. But the Battle of Ezekiel 38 will be such a miraculous victory that it will re-awaken Israel to God’s presence. This means the Dispensation of Grace will have come to an end and the Church will be gone by the time this battle comes to an end.” [from part 1]

The fullness of the Gentiles will come in but it doesn’t necessarily mean that as soon as the last 6 year old goes up to the altar or some bushman in a jungle confesses Christ that the trumps will sound and the church just disappears. I have some questions as to Mr. Kelly’s assertion that the Church is gone just as soon as the last gentile comes in then bam Israel finds God. God may find Israel and protect her as Ezekiel states...but events suggest that Israel hasn’t found Christ en masse(though many individual jews are being converted at an increasing rate right now) at that point hence the rebuild of the temple and the resumption of animal sacrifices when in fact Christ is the ultimate final sacrifice for all men!

The Bible verses that describe the rise of the “son of perdition” state that “even the elect” will have a difficult time not being deceived by this man; which suggests that there will be elect(ie the church) around to watch the “son of perdition” being revealed!

The New Testament states the Christ would not come until that “son of perdition first be revealed”. The fact that many Jews are already coming to Christ and increasing numbers are making Aliyah to Israel now suggests that the church has begun to reach fullness in terms of gentiles saved. Prophetic events dovetail, blend and merge as opposed to just simply happening in staccato fashion(a to b to c) like the wind that blows at first weakly then strongly then weakly again. The flow is constant and inexorable(”for the like the wind that comes and goes as it wills so does the Spirit of God”) until God’s ordained equilibrium is reached. Prophetic events need to be looked at 4 dimensionally as many will be occurring “concurrently” not just one after the other in chronological historic fashion.

God’s word is true and all things will happen as God ordains...but prepare for departures from man’s accepted narrative as to how things will happen. Christ says he “comes like a thief” in a way most unexpected so he says “be ready”. Christ first came at a time and in a manner quite out of the expected mainstream narrative...we have to be flexible enough to consider that end times events may occur in such a way as well. The book of Revelation describes multitudes of Saints killed for their refusal to worship the Beast and to take his mark...so the question of the church and events in the “latter days” is still open to some discussion.


118 posted on 05/26/2010 2:21:39 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: ducttape45

Interesting analysis. I always wonder about prophecy, though. If the people in the time of the prophecy can understand it, wouldn’t they change their behavior and thus alter the chain of events? It is compelling, though, so I’ll mark this site for some more reading later.


120 posted on 05/26/2010 2:45:37 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: ducttape45

letting you know what i think... well thought out and referenced pieces. i enjoyed reading them.

i am by no means an authority on the end times, but have looked forward to the final days as my faith in the lord is strong. the disappearance of the church, through the rapture, fascinated me as to how that would not turn the staunchest of sceptics to god... then came the invention of the neutron bomb...

one of many steps leading up to the culmination of all his glory.

thanks for the read.

teeman


122 posted on 05/26/2010 2:59:23 PM PDT by teeman8r (NO vember is coming... vote them out)
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To: ducttape45
I check raptureready.com daily. They are a terrific news source. HB
139 posted on 05/26/2010 6:13:27 PM PDT by Hamilcar_Barca (Palin 2012)
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