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To: MamaTexan
The act of creation is what determines the legal hierarchy. That has been acknowledged since Blackstone - that which you create, you have a right to control

It's what gives us the legal right to our property - we created it. It's what gives us the legal right to our children - we created them. The same law of creation is what gives the States the right to control the federal government.

Hmm - I think I'll try that one on my adult daughter. Of course I raised her to be independent and think for herself so it may not work. (lucysmom, who remembers having those discussions with her when she was a teenager)

Unfortunately, that argument would only apply to the original 13 states - the other 37 were created by the federal government. At the time the Constitution was written most of the territory that would become new states didn't even belong to the US; some was acquired by treaty following war, and some was purchased - both were acts of the central government.

Further, Section 3, Clause 1 of the Constitution gives Congress the right to admit new states to the Union: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union...

Finally, the states agreed to transfer certain powers to the federal government when they ratified the Constitution. Ask anyone familiar with patent and copyright law if control of one's creations can be transfered.

I'm sorry, but that's ludicrous. The idea you DON'T have a right to work is like saying you don't have a right to live. One is so dependent on the other there is no way to separate the two.

Tell that to the currently unemployed. You have the right to work if you can get it.

56 posted on 05/28/2010 10:11:41 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom
Unfortunately, that argument would only apply to the original 13 states - the other 37 were created by the federal government.

Doesn't work that way. The district of Columbia is not a State for a reason. New States may be admitted by the Congress, but the Congress is nothing more than the representatives of the States.

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Finally, the states agreed to transfer certain powers to the federal government when they ratified the Constitution.

That's true, but those powers NOT enumerated cannot be exercised. It's called the rule of exclusion.

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Ask anyone familiar with patent and copyright law if control of one's creations can be transfered.

They can be legally transferred with knowledge, consent and full disclosure, yes, but we're not talking about patents of copyrights, we're talking about the Right of the People to their wages of labor.

BTW - the original definition of inalienable is nontransferable

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Tell that to the currently unemployed. You have the right to work if you can get it.

You have a right to work, but it does not come with an obligation to be hired.

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Hmm - I think I'll try that one on my adult daughter.

You may be as flippant as you like, Ma'am, but the Founders designed our country to operate under a certain set of immutable Laws that operate outside the control of Man.

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If you would be so kind, I'd appreciate your answering 2 simple questions-

Where does all legitimate authority for government come from?

Does an individual person have the legal ability to take money from another individual?

57 posted on 05/28/2010 11:52:42 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Dear GOP - "We Suck Less" is ~NOT~ a campaign platform)
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