Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: nickcarraway

Horse trading is an age old tradition in politics and can be very unethical and still remain legal. For example:

“You know Joe, if you were to decide this is not the right time to run, something better might open up for you.”

is clearly unethical, but doesn’t cross the Rubicon of been illegal.

On the other hand:

“Joe, if you don’t run, we’ll make you Secretary of the Navy”

is clearly illegal.

But seeing the hamfisted behavior in world Diplomacy along with the clumsiness of dealing with the GOP on major issues, I have no doubt that the amatuers in the White House were stupid enough to break the law.


7 posted on 05/27/2010 1:16:54 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
You know Joe, if you were to decide this is not the right time to run, something better might open up for you.” is clearly unethical, but doesn’t cross the Rubicon of been illegal. On the other hand: “Joe, if you don’t run, we’ll make you Secretary of the Navy” is clearly illegal.

I don't know that your hypothetical is the right one.

Offering someone who has not announced a candidacy a job if they choose not to enter the race is one thing.

Offering someone who has already entered a race a job if they dropped out of the race is tampering with an election. That person has formed committees, accepted donations, hired staff, and filed with the FEC and other state regulatory bodies.

-PJ

9 posted on 05/27/2010 1:29:05 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies ]

To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; Political Junkie Too

One last time:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1618849/posts

Joe Sestak’s campaign-finance report reads like a list of invitees to an Oval Office meeting with Bill Clinton.

The former three-star admiral, trying to oust Republican Curt Weldon from his U.S. House seat in the Philadelphia suburbs, has received financial support from a dozen top insiders from Clinton’s two terms in the White House.

So many onetime Clintonites are among Sestak donors that the Weldon campaign yesterday cited it as proof of its claim that Sestak, with no previous electoral experience, is little more than the tool of a Democratic Party effort to oust GOP incumbents in swing districts throughout the country.

Sestak’s campaign said, however, that the former Clinton officials are people Sestak knew personally when he was something of a White House insider - director for defense policy on the National Security Council staff.

Sestak’s contributors include U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D., N.Y.), whose political action committee gave $2,500.

Also on the list are:

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who donated $500.

Former White House chief of staff John Podesta, who gave $300.

Former CIA director John Deutch, who gave $500.

Former Navy secretary John Dalton, who gave $500.

Former national security adviser Samuel R. “Sandy” Berger, who gave $1,000.

Former national security adviser Anthony Lake, who gave $500.

Among the administration’s once-powerful but lesser known figures on the donor list is Richard A. Clarke. He later became famous for his 2003 book, Against All Enemies, that accused President Bush of ignoring terrorist threats before 9/11. Clarke, who was a top counterterrorism adviser to several presidents, gave $2,100 to Sestak.

“Joe Sestak was picked - handpicked - by the Clinton national Democratic organization to... run for this seat, and now they’re bankrolling him,” said Michael Puppio, a Weldon campaign spokesman.

Sestak is running in the Seventh District, concentrated in Delaware County, where he grew up but where he had not lived for decades before mounting his campaign. As a Navy officer, he lived all over.

The Weldon campaign earlier criticized Sestak for taking support from Berger, whom it said is a convicted criminal. Berger pleaded guilty last year to a misdemeanor charge of removing unauthorized material from an archive and retaining classified documents.

Puppio, in a telephone interview yesterday, said the inclusion of Deutch’s name on Sestak’s list made for two “convicted criminals” who had contributed to the Democrat.

Deutch won a pardon

Clinton, on leaving office in 2001, pardoned Deutch for a misdemeanor conviction of having retained classified information on his home computer.

Allison Price, Sestak’s spokeswoman, said yesterday that Sestak was “very proud” of gaining support from the Clinton insiders, including both Berger and Deutch.

Sestak earned the support of the administration officials by having won their respect and confidence when he worked with them, according to Price. His campaign Web site contains a photo of him in white Navy uniform in the Oval Office with Clinton.

A number of former National Security Council staffers, and at least four former admirals, are also among the 3,864 people the Sestak campaign said have contributed $427,264 from Jan. 1 to March 31.

In the same period, Weldon, who has been in Congress for two decades, raised more than $460,000, including substantial contributions from the defense industry. He is vice chairman of both the House Armed Services and Homeland Security committees, and is the head of an Armed Services subcommittee that authorizes defense programs.

Officials at defense firms

Sestak’s financial report, filed last week with the Federal Election Commission, shows a few contributions from officials at General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, all defense companies. Price said these are from former Navy leaders or National Security Council officials who worked with Sestak.

“Many of the people in armed forces... go to work for the defense industry,” Price said.

Also donating to Sestak’s campaign were members of his large immediate family, including his father, Joe Sestak Sr., and his mother, Kathleen, both of Delaware County, who each gave the legal maximum of $4,200.

Several of his brothers and sisters gave up to $4,200, also.

Among the political well-knowns on Sestak’s report is an entertainer. Jimmy Buffett, the singer who made “Margaritaville” famous, donated $2,100 from his base of operations in Los Angeles.

Former President Clinton is a big no-show on the Sestak list.

But there is a Bill Clinton - in fact, a William J. Clinton - on the list.

Clinton, a former health-care manager who now works as a consultant from Upper Providence, Delaware County, gave $250. He recently became a township councilman.

“I am a Democrat, and a progressive,” he said, “and I support Joe Sestak.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania; Click to Add Topic
KEYWORDS: abledanger; atta; Click to Add Keyword


[ Report Abuse | Bookmark ]
For those who have been following Able Danger, here’s further proof that the Clintonites do not want Congressman Curt Weldon to get to the bottom of this scandal. For those unfamiliar with it, Able Danger was a DOD program that identified Atta before the 9/11 attacks. But when datamining efforts used by the group turned up shady links between the Clinton Administration and China, it was shutdown and prevented from sharing info with the FBI.
This group could have prevented 9/11, but the Clinton’s knocked it out of Commission. When Weldon started digging into this issue, the Clinton’s recruited one of their own — Admiral Joe Sestak, a former member of Clinton’s NationalSecurity Council — to run against Weldon.


19 posted on 05/27/2010 10:31:49 PM PDT by txhurl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson