[Dahoser]

I'm willing to concede that we might get some good soldiers out of this who are not joining up now because of the ban, but the problem is what my wife pointed out: what happens when we get real-life Klingers who will be more than happy to scream discrimination if they're told this isn't RuPaul's army? A reasonable assumption is that the military would anticipate this and institute a ban on cross-dressing, but, of course, nothing stops Congress from doing away with that ban like they're doing away with this ban. For that matter, they could just include it in the final language since these clymers don't read the bills they vote for anyway.

There is no question that the real intent of lifting this ban is to harm our military. The people pushing this are the same people who have no problem banning the military from college and high school campuses. Just by definition they aren't looking to strengthen the military. They know it's going to cause problems simply to have openly gay troops, but what I believe they're really counting on are the extreme behaviors doing the damage because they'll be argued as part of being gay and therefore protected.

[behzinlea]

I'm willing to concede that we might get some good soldiers out of this who are not joining up now because of the ban

The only ones that are not signing up now are the ones for whom openly flaunting their perverse lifestyle is more important than serving their country. We sure as hell don't need them.