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Many in the South were fighting for territory...they were for the rights of Blacks and knew more about such folks than the North would ever--could ever--know.

This war was not about civil rights...it was about power.

The cotton produced in the South was sent to the North. The crops of the South fed the North.

I don't blame the North...but why would the North still blame the South.

Have we not done our part!

1 posted on 05/30/2010 7:03:19 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: stainlessbanner

ping


2 posted on 05/30/2010 7:04:28 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

The very first memorial day saw the Confederate dead
treated with reverence, there is no reason not to today


3 posted on 05/30/2010 7:05:35 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
The victor writes the history books.

Now compare what you see presented in today's "history books" with the actual recorded history.

4 posted on 05/30/2010 7:07:21 PM PDT by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

“they were for the rights of Blacks “

Sure they were!! That’s why the kept them as slaves


6 posted on 05/30/2010 7:10:46 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

The Blue And The Gray

Francis Miles Finch (1827-1907)

By the flow of the inland river,
Whence the fleets of iron have fled,
Where the blades of the grave-grass quiver,
Asleep are the ranks of the dead:
Under the sod and the dew,
Waiting the judgment-day;
Under the one, the Blue,
Under the other, the Gray

These in the robings of glory,
Those in the gloom of defeat,
All with the battle-blood gory,
In the dusk of eternity meet:
Under the sod and the dew,
Waiting the judgement-day
Under the laurel, the Blue,
Under the willow, the Gray.

From the silence of sorrowful hours
The desolate mourners go,
Lovingly laden with flowers
Alike for the friend and the foe;
Under the sod and the dew,
Waiting the judgement-day;
Under the roses, the Blue,
Under the lilies, the Gray.

So with an equal splendor,
The morning sun-rays fall,
With a touch impartially tender,
On the blossoms blooming for all:
Under the sod and the dew,
Waiting the judgment-day;
Broidered with gold, the Blue,
Mellowed with gold, the Gray.

So, when the summer calleth,
On forest and field of grain,
With an equal murmur falleth
The cooling drip of the rain:
Under the sod and the dew,
Waiting the judgment -day,
Wet with the rain, the Blue
Wet with the rain, the Gray.

Sadly, but not with upbraiding,
The generous deed was done,
In the storm of the years that are fading
No braver battle was won:
Under the sod adn the dew,
Waiting the judgment-day;
Under the blossoms, the Blue,
Under the garlands, the Gray

No more shall the war cry sever,
Or the winding rivers be red;
They banish our anger forever
When they laurel the graves of our dead!
Under the sod and the dew,
Waiting the judgment-day,
Love and tears for the Blue,
Tears and love for the Gray.


7 posted on 05/30/2010 7:10:58 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Sad war! Lost a great uncle on the Union side at Gettysburg & several from same family wounded at other places. Best thing to do is learn from it & move on...


10 posted on 05/30/2010 7:13:42 PM PDT by DoWhatsRight (Obama- MSM selected caricature. Big "story"- empty suit.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Do not forget that May 31 was also the date that the Boers signed the Vereeniging Peace Treaty which ended the Anglo-Boer War but cost the Boers their internationally recognized Boer Republics. This date was also celebrated as Union Day: when South Africa was created & Republic Day: when South Africa was turned into a nominal republic.


13 posted on 05/30/2010 7:21:15 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
"But there were no Gray Dead."

Oh, really?

15 posted on 05/30/2010 7:23:19 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
....they were for the rights of Blacks...

Say what?

17 posted on 05/30/2010 7:25:38 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Memorial Day was originally founded to celebrate the Union dead.

For many, many years, even into the fifties, it was not celebrated in the South. It wasn't a school holiday nor a banking holiday. Nor did state or local government employees get the day off.

Only the in the past fifty years has Memorial Day become a truly national holiday.

19 posted on 05/30/2010 7:26:49 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

This is another instance of liberal poison. The Confederacy is now politically incorrect. The Confederate flag is no longer tolerated.

When I was a boy, the general view among people I knew was that the Civil War was necessary, and that freedom won. But it was also seen as a terrible necessity, and there was sympathy for the South and its way of life.

It is a peculiarity of liberals that they are completely lacking in feeling for their declared enemies. In this case it is rather strange, since the Democrats of those days supported slavery and the Republicans fought to free the slaves.


22 posted on 05/30/2010 7:31:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

What part of UNITED States do you not understand?


25 posted on 05/30/2010 7:36:48 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I don’t believe there were ANY foreign uniforms in this memorial presentation.


36 posted on 05/30/2010 7:54:30 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Of course the civil war was not about civil rights, slaves had no civil rights or any rights at all.

The reason there are no gray Uniforms any more is simple, first as anyone that knows anything about the civil war will tell you confederates wore butternut which is closer to Khaki than gray.

But more importantly the same democrats that once used the Confederate flag as a proud symbol of the south have turned against the people of the south to portray them as racists and bigots so that they may coddle those they once lynched and fool them into supporting democrats.

Face it if you are white conservative and a southerner you are useless to the goals of the democrat party these days except as an example of the very same racism that fueled the democrats for so many years.


44 posted on 05/30/2010 8:16:53 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Memorial Day is to honor Americans who gave their lives for this nation’s freedom and survival. It is not to honor traitors who seceded from the Union and set up their own nation for 4 years. The Confederate soldiers are no more American, by choice during 1861 to 1865, than British soldiers or German soldiers. The Confedrates tried to destroy this country. You cannot demand the same respect and honor from the very same country that you voluntarily renounced and rebelled against that aformentioned country places on her own war dead.


53 posted on 05/30/2010 8:47:27 PM PDT by medscribe
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

All I can say is that I just read all of the post and feel like I just came out of the twilight zone.


57 posted on 05/30/2010 9:08:18 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Some Southern states celebrate Confederate Memorial Day. In Louisiana it is on June 3, Jefferson Davis’ birthday. If you’re interested in another state in the South, you can find it here-

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/gov_con_mem_day_dat-government-confederate-memorial-day-date


65 posted on 05/31/2010 1:22:16 AM PDT by Mila
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I was surprised to note that at least one state, South Carolina, recognizes CMD as a state holiday. Louisiana doesn’t do that.

State offices closed for Confederate Memorial Day
Newsroom
Published: May 10, 2010

http://www2.counton2.com/cbd/news/local/article/state_offices_closed_for_confederate_memorial_day/136672/


66 posted on 05/31/2010 1:33:11 AM PDT by Mila
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
they were for the rights of Blacks

Absolutely right. Unfortunately for what you meant, they believed the rights of Blacks were primarily the right to be held in eternal slavery. It was the "cornerstone" of their new government. The new veep of the CSA, March 21, 1861. Just a few days before the CSA decided to start the war.

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=76

The speech was given extemporaneously, was received by the audience with enormous applause, and was reprinted widely throughout the South. I have never seen the slightest bit of evidence that anybody in the South expressed disagreement with anything he said. He was indeed expressing the conventional wisdom of the CSA.

71 posted on 05/31/2010 5:21:38 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (When buying and selling are legislated, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.)
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