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12 dead in U.K. shooting rampage
MSNBC.com ^ | 06/02/2010 | Staff

Posted on 06/02/2010 9:37:13 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

LONDON - British police said the death toll from a shooting spree in northwest England earlier on Wednesday had risen to 12.

A taxi driver described as quiet but friendly went on a shooting spree across a picturesque rural area before apparently turning the gun on himself, police said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; rampage; shooting; uk
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There must be some mistake. Guns are all but illegal in the UK.
1 posted on 06/02/2010 9:37:14 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

You ever notice how these shootings NEVER, EVER take place at firing ranges?


2 posted on 06/02/2010 9:38:05 AM PDT by Grunthor (Someone help me with this rope, I can't take the stupidity anymore.)
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To: OldDeckHand

You’re right. Clearly this story is a fabrication because no one could do this in England with the restrictive gun laws they have. :)

/sarc


3 posted on 06/02/2010 9:39:09 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: OldDeckHand

I was going to ask the same question.


4 posted on 06/02/2010 9:39:17 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: OldDeckHand

UK have a lot of Amish?


5 posted on 06/02/2010 9:39:20 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: OldDeckHand
Based on the photo, he must be a Brit Tea Party member.

/s

6 posted on 06/02/2010 9:39:46 AM PDT by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: OldDeckHand

How does Paul McCArtney explain THIS?

Perhaps as an example of his global concerns, McCartney called the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico “a disgrace.”

“I think most of us think it’s a disgrace, and the fact that something like this can happen” is something that is “going to be addressed,” he said.


Oh Paul ... BP is a BRITISH COMPANY!

BP has NOTHING to do with MEXICO!

British Petroleum (BP) is a UK company.

BP plc[2] is a British global energy company which is the third largest energy company and the fourth largest company in the world. As a multinational oil company (”oil major”) BP is the UK’s largest corporation, with its headquarters in St James’s, City of Westminster, London.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526041/posts

ANY words of WISDOM for this, Paul McCartney?

LOOK at the craphole your COUNTRY HAS BECOME!


7 posted on 06/02/2010 9:40:20 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: OldDeckHand

“quiet but friendly”

The English are always polite, even while on a shooting spree.


8 posted on 06/02/2010 9:40:29 AM PDT by tumblindice ("Do these clam diggers make me look fat?" Fatso Gore)
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To: Grunthor
Multiple shootings are rare in Britain, where gun ownership is tightly restricted and handguns are banned. In 1987, gun enthusiast Michael Ryan killed 16 people in the English town of Hungerford. In 1996, Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children and a teacher at a kindergarten in Dunblane, Scotland.

Apparently not that rare.

9 posted on 06/02/2010 9:40:44 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: OldDeckHand

Somehow I don’t think the people he killed would describe the murderer as “quiet and freindly.”

Little wankor.


10 posted on 06/02/2010 9:41:11 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: subterfuge

“He was a quiet man.” - Rodney Dangerfield


11 posted on 06/02/2010 9:41:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MarMema

Did that happen at a firing range, like I mentioned in my post?


12 posted on 06/02/2010 9:42:24 AM PDT by Grunthor (Someone help me with this rope, I can't take the stupidity anymore.)
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To: OldDeckHand

complete timeline here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article7142477.ece

(The man said Bird enjoyed foreign holidays, travelling to Thailand each year with friends. He rarely spoke of any family. He said he was not aware of Bird owning a gun, or being a member of a gun club.)


13 posted on 06/02/2010 9:43:27 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Grunthor
Sorry I meant to post to number 1.

Not at a firing range, but you will note one past killer was a "gun enthusiast" - Oh the humanities.

14 posted on 06/02/2010 9:44:01 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Grunthor

There have been a few murder/suicides at ranges lately. The latest I recall was in Utah.


15 posted on 06/02/2010 9:44:38 AM PDT by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: subterfuge
one of the victims was another taxi driver who was a friend of Bird's.

Apparently not that good of a friend
16 posted on 06/02/2010 9:44:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: OldDeckHand

Yeah, that’s what I thought, too. This must be a mistake.


17 posted on 06/02/2010 9:45:39 AM PDT by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Guns are all but illegal in the UK.

And all of those security cameras really helped stop this.

18 posted on 06/02/2010 9:46:45 AM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: OldDeckHand

It’s still legal to own a shotgun and these shootings were done with one. Far more effective than a handgun but a little harder to conceal.


19 posted on 06/02/2010 9:47:07 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: sodpoodle

Oh there it is again, but this time he is a “shooting enthusiast”.


20 posted on 06/02/2010 9:47:23 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: OldDeckHand

I wonder how they’re going to spin this since it didn’t happen in the US?


21 posted on 06/02/2010 9:47:46 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Live BBC News
http://atdhe.net/watch-bbc-news.php


22 posted on 06/02/2010 9:48:50 AM PDT by Viiksitimali
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To: sodpoodle

Thailand???? Hmmmmmmmm.


23 posted on 06/02/2010 9:48:52 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: saganite
Far more effective than a handgun but a little harder to conceal.

And very hard to stop bare-handed.

24 posted on 06/02/2010 9:49:01 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: OldDeckHand

UK Gun Control FAIL.


25 posted on 06/02/2010 9:50:56 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: OldDeckHand
Cab driver?

In the U.S., Muslims have taken over the taxi industry....In fact, Muslims driving cabs are circling most of our major airports as I type.

26 posted on 06/02/2010 9:51:13 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: OldDeckHand

That was my thought. impossible, guns are illegal there.


27 posted on 06/02/2010 9:51:45 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“Thailand???? Hmmmmmmmm. “

Did he go there for the $ex tourism?


28 posted on 06/02/2010 9:51:58 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: sodpoodle
The man said Bird enjoyed foreign holidays, travelling to Thailand each year with friends.

Thailand?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

29 posted on 06/02/2010 9:52:56 AM PDT by library user
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To: Republic of Texas

That was my thought. impossible, guns are illegal there.


No you are wrong guns are NOT illegal there. “Only” handguns are banned.
btw. my condolence to the families of the victims.


30 posted on 06/02/2010 9:53:59 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: GraceG

I’m wondering that.


31 posted on 06/02/2010 9:54:02 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Except for his “friend,” most of the shootings seem to be random.

Very strange.


32 posted on 06/02/2010 9:54:10 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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To: darkside321

What did he do the killing with?


33 posted on 06/02/2010 9:54:32 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: MarkeyD

I think it’s mostly suicides.


34 posted on 06/02/2010 9:56:21 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: cripplecreek
Police are dealing with some 30 separate crime scenes.

Yikes.

35 posted on 06/02/2010 9:56:24 AM PDT by library user
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To: library user

More from the very detailed London Times chronology:

A neighbour of Derrick Bird, the murder suspect, tells us he is the “last person” he would have expected to be involved in a series of murders.

Mr Wilson says he “never had a problem with him” and he’s “lived in the area for a long time. My son went to school with his son. I’m not sure if he was married. He had a partner at one point but not for several years. Everybody in a 10-15 mile radius would know him, because everyone mixed with him. He was very sociable.

“He’s the last person you’d expect [to do this] - a very, very positive view, into quite a lot of things.

“His son was into motorbikes and everything, into scuba diving. Most of his taxi business was in Whitehaven... so he’s well known there too.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article7142477.ece


36 posted on 06/02/2010 9:56:42 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

from your link:

17.31 BST Twelve people are dead and 25 injured, says DCC Hyde. Police are dealing with some 30 separate crime scenes.


37 posted on 06/02/2010 9:57:53 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: MarkeyD

Milwaukee has had a few range suicides this year.


38 posted on 06/02/2010 9:58:57 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: saganite

Or do a ballistics trace on.


39 posted on 06/02/2010 10:00:03 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: OldDeckHand

It's in our genes.

40 posted on 06/02/2010 10:00:15 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Republic of Texas

What did he do the killing with?


I really don´t know. Someone here said he used a shotgun.
But i´m not shure because i have not read any details about the weapon right now in the news.


41 posted on 06/02/2010 10:01:13 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: OldDeckHand
Cab driver? In the U.S., Muslims have taken over the taxi industry....In fact, Muslims driving cabs are circling most of our major airports as I type.

IN FACT, at airports like Chicago, NY, LA and Dallas etc, there are thousands of Muslims circling these airports in cabs.

We need to thank the U.S. government for rolling out the red carpet and allowing these tens of thousands of Muslims into our country.

42 posted on 06/02/2010 10:01:38 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: OldDeckHand

(shooter shoots)

British: “Hey! Let’s ban some guns!”

(shooter shoots)

British: “Hey! Let’s ban some MORE guns!”

(shooter shoots)

British: “Hey! Let’s ban some MORE guns!”

(shooter shoots)

British: “Hey! Let’s ban some MORE guns!”

(shooter shoots)

British: “Hey! Let’s ban some MORE guns!”

Well, now a shooter has shot.

What do you predict will be the OBVIOUSLY SUCCESSFUL answer???


43 posted on 06/02/2010 10:02:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: OldDeckHand

pakistani with a smuggled in shotgun from home?

LLS


44 posted on 06/02/2010 10:02:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Republic of Texas

from the Times (UK) chronology:

17.05 BST Several witnesses say Bird was shooting his victims with a shotgun, but others specifically describe a rifle.


45 posted on 06/02/2010 10:04:45 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: nmh

paul is a crap hole himself... I despise the jerk.

LLS


46 posted on 06/02/2010 10:04:45 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: library user

A muslim screwing little boys in Thailand goes crazy with guilt and kills white people.

LLS


47 posted on 06/02/2010 10:06:11 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Sorry but this guy doesn´t look like a pakistani to me. Photobucket
48 posted on 06/02/2010 10:09:57 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: Grunthor
You ever notice how these shootings NEVER, EVER take place at firing ranges?

I realize the story is from across the pond, however, back here in the US of A we had a nutjob take out her own son last year at a firing range.

Nobody saw it coming, she shot, then when the son stepped up to shoot, she shot him in the back of the head.

I'll see if I can find a link.

49 posted on 06/02/2010 10:13:46 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: MarMema
Multiple shootings are rare in Britain, where gun ownership is tightly restricted and handguns are banned.

Always on the cutting edge, your UK has now moved on to large quantities of fertilizer filling storage units everywhere, courtesy of our very own local homegrown Pakistani terrorists.

Yes, multiple shootings are so passe', as the bombing of airports, subways, and buses pave the way for a new future.
50 posted on 06/02/2010 10:18:16 AM PDT by mstar
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