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Rethinking The Pistol As A Weapon Of War
itakeliberty.com ^ | June, 2010 | Jennifer III

Posted on 06/03/2010 5:20:05 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: r9etb

Great picture of Frank! I think that the closest I ever saw him come to taking aim with his trusty sidearm.


61 posted on 06/03/2010 7:41:15 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: marktwain
I have a good friend in Delta Force who has saved not only his own life, but those of the VIPs he was protecting, more than once, with his pistol.

There's a time and place for every type of weapon.

62 posted on 06/03/2010 7:45:10 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: SUSSA
When the authorities went house to house confiscating guns the only ones they didn’t get were the pistols in people’s pockets.

"The people" should have exercised their second amendment rights at that point and dispatched the errant 'authorities'. The had no right, NO RIGHT to confiscate weapons from the general public. Period.

""...being necessary for the security of the FREE STATE, the Right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.""

63 posted on 06/03/2010 7:53:38 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: meyer

The had no right, NO RIGHT to confiscate weapons from the general public. Period.

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I agree and so does the Supreme Court. However, facing large groups of armed solders, U.S. Marshals, state or local police, few people are willing to die defending their freedom.

One of the worst parts of that whole affair is that after the Supremes ruled, the “Justice” Department didn’t charge anyone with violating the federal law against violating people’s civil rights under color of law. Nobody was ever brought to justice for those crimes.


64 posted on 06/03/2010 8:06:55 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: papertyger

“Perhaps the biggest fallacy held among modern patriots, militia groups and survivalists is the idea of SHTF. This isn’t to say there won’t ever be SHTF type situations, but the idea that one day everything is going to be perfectly normal and the next day life is utter chaos…it’s just not going to happen.

Those in government are usually too smart for that. Even when the whole rotten system is collapsing around them, they are pretty good at finding ways to keep things seeming ‘normal’ for just a little longer to stay in power.”

But that is foolish thinking, imo. The gov’t is too smart for chaos to break out? The crap won’t hit the fan? The failure will be gradual?

No one knows this, especially with the present admin and congress.

A handgun certainly has it’s uses when the failure hits, but it’s not a rifle. Rifles are rifles, and pistols are pistols. You don’t ever want to wish you had a rifle.

If you know there is going to be a gun fight, always bring a decent rifle with you, even if you have a handgun with you already.

If they got within pistol range of me, I did something wrong, imo.


65 posted on 06/03/2010 8:37:41 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: centurion316

Your evident sarcasm is noted. ;-)

The Israeli naval commando boarding party thought non-lethal paintball guns were the way to go too. They ended up using pistols and live ammunition to take their assailants down.


66 posted on 06/03/2010 8:40:54 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: ltc8k6
You won't. That's the point.
67 posted on 06/03/2010 8:49:38 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: marktwain

bookBUMP


68 posted on 06/03/2010 10:55:59 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (That Kenyan bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: ltc8k6

During WW2 we air dropped a small single shot .45 to the resistance with about 10 rounds each. It was called the Liberator FP-45. The idea was Frenchy would slide up to a Nazi, pop one off close range and take his rifle and ammo. So the pistol is used to fight your way to the rifle.


69 posted on 06/03/2010 11:04:58 AM PDT by Edison (I don't know what irks me more, the lying or the incompetence.)
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To: Dixie Yooper; Richard Kimball

Did you know that William Conrad, the author who played detective Frank Cannon was the voice of Marshall Matt Dillon on the old “Gunsmoke” radio show long ago?

I have heard a replay on the radio of an interview Conrad did once in which he talked about an amazing blooper he made on “Gunsmoke”. Marshall Dillon was talking with a hangman and he was supposed to say, “I can always tell when a man has been hanged by you because he is so well hanged.” Instead he said, “I can always tell when a man has been hanged by you because he is so well HUNG.”


70 posted on 06/03/2010 11:07:13 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: BuffaloJack
I’ve been in combat with a pistol and with a rifle. Give me a rifle any time.

The point of the guy in the article is that, even in a SHTF scenario, we will not descend into "Mad Max / Thunderdome" anarchy all at once. There will be a period of greatly increasing street crime. It will be a period where you will probably still be going to work and to the store, but in an environment where you may be ambushed by muggers.

In such an environment, you are not going to be going to work with a slung battle rifle. You would be going about your business with a concealed pistol, and maybe something heavier in your vehicle.

71 posted on 06/03/2010 11:54:41 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: papertyger
That’s the point! Most situations are not going to require a gun, because most stuations are not conflict. Displaying a rifle communicates your potential threat from a long way off, and 360 degrees.

And marks you as the FIRST person that needs to be taken down.

72 posted on 06/03/2010 12:02:34 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Pulse rifle in the 40 Mw range.


73 posted on 06/03/2010 12:02:48 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: marktwain

Always use the right tool for the job. Always have enough tools on-hand to do a variety of jobs.


74 posted on 06/03/2010 12:05:54 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: RipSawyer
I have heard a replay on the radio of an interview Conrad did once in which he talked about an amazing blooper he made on “Gunsmoke”. Marshall Dillon was talking with a hangman and he was supposed to say, “I can always tell when a man has been hanged by you because he is so well hanged.” Instead he said, “I can always tell when a man has been hanged by you because he is so well HUNG.”

Back in those days, if you called someone gay, it only meant they were happy. Society and those who want to get a laugh or say things to one person so others can't really understand what they are talking about have completely twisted our language around to a point where you can get in trouble for saying something that was perfectly innocent 40 years ago. About 10 years ago, a white gay man who worked for the District of Columbia was on break with some black women. He cleverly decided to use the word "Niggardly" while talking about spending cut backs. The black women didn't understand him since it was a term that had not been used due to it's sound since Civil Rights, and before the week was over had him fired. In a matter of months, he successfully sued D.C. for millions of dollars for firing him for the use of a word that had a harmless meaning... Personally, I think the "burning ember" knew what he was doing all along.

75 posted on 06/03/2010 12:09:37 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: papertyger

I won’t what?

I know for certain that if there is anarchy, such as after major riots or a CAT5 hurricane, and I’m in a gunfight to protect me and mine with only a pistol, I will indeed wish I had a decent rifle.

With a rifle in your hand, the bad guys are going to need a lot better cover...and they’ll need to be a lot farther away, if they don’t want extra holes in them.

Many things which provide cover for a 9mm pistol round, do not provide cover at all for rifle rounds.

The idea that anarchy won’t happen quickly is foolish, imo. Anyone over thirty has seen it happen quickly.


76 posted on 06/03/2010 12:23:43 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: marktwain

Good points.

The collapse, if it happens, will be less Mad Max and more down town Detroit.


77 posted on 06/03/2010 6:24:34 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

My mother quoted a movie to me once.

Once.


78 posted on 06/03/2010 7:14:44 PM PDT by boomstick (I really underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks! With a lot of help from my friends, as the Beatles used to say! ;-)

FerFAL


79 posted on 06/30/2010 6:40:17 AM PDT by FerFAL308
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To: AFreeBird

The Terminator: Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.
Pawn Shop Clerk: Hey, just what you see pal.


80 posted on 06/30/2010 6:44:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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